Hello Good to hear from you I did not start the shoe until play 6 and I just flat bet 1 unit until I have 3 to 4 units up then I go for 1,2,3,4 M2 Mode yup I see my mistake. when you say cash management do not go below -8 units I am guessing if you are up lets say 7units you don go below -1 unit is that correct ? anyway I'm going to keep playing tonight I hate where I play at the commerce casino here in Los Angeles Ca you have to put up 1 Dollar every time you make a bet its dragon 7 baccarat that 1 dollar kills me 20 plays means your $20.00 dollars down already it sucks anyway thanks for your help Ellis