MensaMadness

Thanks John

Hi Ellis How many previous plays would you need to look at for this? Cheers Ezza

Hi Everyone I was tinkering today and programming *more* options into the "monolith" and realized I could have tested this system ages ago using the base system in combination with a single loss switch system... Anyhow, to cut a long story short, I found the following the best for MVS+ using my "Find Best" button: 1) The start favours an RD1 immediate start. I tested waiting from 3 to 10 plays using various counts and with fallbacks of either TB4L/OTB4L/RD1 2) After the first loss after the shoe start using RD1 and after switching to OTB4L, I found switching to TB4L after three losses and switching back to OTB4L after 1 loss the best. 3) A stop loss of 14 works the best with no stop win. You can use lower stop losses but you lose in the long run 4) Not using a paper win option is better 5) Use a B1U1D2M2X6 progression, where X6 means that maximum bet you make is 6 units Using the above resulted in a shoe average of 2.8 units for 600 odd test shoes. I have attached a pdf showing the results for the first 100 odd shoes. The pink bits indicate the switch and the blue bits indicate OTR. If everyone can maybe look at this PDF and "mull" over the shoes for a while, we may be able to better the shoe win rate. I have all sorts of bells and whistles for testing and switching already programmed so let's get the average units way up there if we can. Basically, that's what I do - test a system, spend countless hours reviewing the shoes, come up with ideas, program another option then press the "Find Best" button Cheers Ezza MVS+.pdf

Hi Everyone I was wondering if anyone has cracked the search function. I want to search for all posts with the worrd "OTB4L" in them and it only returns three posts, even if I go back 12 months. Can someone please explain to me how to do this as I'll be buggered if I can get it working... ...and I've been in IT for 25 years Keith or John: can one of you guys please give me access to PM's as this is still disabled. The downloads work now though...thanks Cheers Ezza

MVS Congrats on moving to $25 units. When I built my bankroll to $1250 (from a $500 bankroll using dimes), I decided to move to $25 units. I feel comfortable when my bankroll is 50x my unit size. Anyhow, the next two sessions I got hit and are now playing $10 units again to get back to $1250. I have a new rule as well: If I lose two shoes in a row, I quit the session and go back to my program and try new ideas so that I don't lose two hands in a row. Cheers Ezza

Hi MVS Let me know where you had the challenge/s and I can post some more info in the OP. I only test installed it on a couple of machines so there may be issues with other operating systems etc. Cheers Ezza

Hi Everyone I also forgot to mention that the generated spreadsheets are created in the program directory (c:\program files\baccarat_shoe_printer). Hope it's useful Cheers Ezza

Hi I've finally created a small utility for everyone to use. It's self explantory but basically allows you to create an excel spreadsheet from a text file that contains shoes in it (in the form p23324 etc). I've even added an option so you can see the CS and OT count. Simply download the program, unzip it, install it, load the shoe text file (included) and then click the "print shoe/s" button. An excel spreadsheet is then created. Instead of creating a spreadsheet with all shoes in it, simply type "1" in the text box and that will just print the first shoe so you can see what it's like. You need excel on your computer for this to work. http://www.beatthecasino.com/bb/downloads.php?do=file&id=28 Cheers Ezza

Thanks MVS It's good to hear a "blow-by-blow" account of how someone thinks when playing a shoe. I've revamped the system I use (until that last shoe, I used a different hodge podge system) and the last show now plays out to +18; hitting the stop win of +18 that I set for it. Cheers Ezza

Hi Everyone Here's more live shoes to test with your systems. If anyone can give me a suggestion as to what I could have done with the last shoe, it would be much appreciated Cheers Ezza Burswood 29/11/09 Blue MD2 #1 b12131314112 b2121221131121 p165221111 b1121112 Burswood 29/11/09 Red MD2 #2 p1266311 p1313341121 b11253131111 b33111 Burswood 29/11/09 Blue MD2 #3 b11111321126 p1111122121115 b1221113212112 p32 Burswood 29/11/09 Red MD2 #4 b231226121 p1221341132 p1222733 p1211221 Burswood 29/11/09 Blue MD2 #5 b2131621112 b1112211125111 b1335161 p221 Burswood 29/11/09 Red MD2 #6 b211213112111111 p211312415 p1343131121 p2132

Hi Ellis In answer to your questions: Yes, the shoes are from the same table. Two decks shuffled with an MD2. Regarding how old the cards are, I wouldn't have a clue. I play at the "Rapid Baccarat" table where you have a workstation and bet electronically while the cards are dealt by the dealer. Also, I wouldn't have a clue if these cards are pre-shuffled or not. I do know they use pre-shuffled cards in the Riviera Room and once a shoe is dealt, they toss the cards. Seems to be choppy but today I played 5.3 shoes and it was a disaster I need to get up to speed on money management as I was ahead nearly $1k and now I'm even again. The play method I used was: Start the shoe with OTB4L or TB4L, depending whether it hits +1 or -1 first. Continue betting the B1,D2,M3 progression while winning. If I lose, I use BP+1,U1 where BP+1 means I start the loss progression one unit higher than the previous loss from the play progression. I stop when I lose two in a row, reset the count and wait for it to go +1 or -1 and recommence OTB4L or TB4L. It was working today OK but the last shoe was 56 units down...and I must have been brain dead as I should have stopped play after the first 40 hands (at -13 units). Oh well, the harder you get hit, the quicker you learn Cheers Ezza

Burswood 27/11/09 Blue MD2 #1 b221121511112 b1143121121111 b12221122241 p3411 Burswood 27/11/09 Red MD2 #2 b1211311223111 p11111211212111111 b22113233111 p342 Burswood 27/11/09 Red Hand #3 b1312321211111 p1(11)431 b21114221132 b21211122121 Burswood 28/11/09 Red MD2 #1 b112211214212 b311112111121112 p43314311 b126111 Burswood 28/11/09 Blue MD2 #2 b5422511 b122311111214 b131322111122 b121421111

Wednesday 16th September 2009 - Burswood Casino - Perth - Western Australia 8 decks - Shuffle Master MD2 SHOE #1 P3513131111 B42311153 P221214121112 P111121111 SHOE #2 P232112113211 P11213441111 B1212211111211111 P43111 Friday 20th November 2009 - Burswood Casino - Perth - Western Australia 8 decks - Shuffle Master MD2 SHOE #1 @ 10:46PM B21111141112121 B121711115 B32311112213 P111311 Saturday 21st November 2009 - Burswood Casino - Perth - Western Australia 8 decks - Shuffle Master MD2 SHOE #1 @ 12:02AM B32812121 B123511232 B1121142152 P12133212 SHOE #2 @ 1:18AM P111711332 B1232122232 P12222123311 P66 Cheers Ezza