[The lastest at Foxwoods]

Hi Gang,

I've not asked the group lately...but I was curious to what everyone may be experiencing these days at Foxwoods. I've not played there in 2015. I typically play in the Newport Bac Room (Asian Room)...touch games.

Are they using Factory Preshuffled? Or other?

What is working best there...MDB+, NOR, etc?

Any insight on the best way to play/beat their games would be appreciated.

Thanks

[Beating on line casinos]

Great! Looking forward to learning it and playing online. Also, would love to play together as well too.

Hopefully this new system is fairly easy

[MDB+ / SAP Perspective]

Good Stuff Ellis, makes sense. I'm looking forward to two possibilities:

1) Many of us play this method online together via Teleconference.

2) We play together in Vegas like this in Stadium Bac where we hit them hard

[Beating Foxwoods (newport-Asian Baccarat) shoes]

Ellis-

I hate to Bug ya again on this question, as I know you are fighting an eye issue..however, I'm hitting Foxwoods and would like your opinion.

Should I play MDB+ and which type netbetting for my companion system?

Thanks

[Beating Foxwoods (newport-Asian Baccarat) shoes]

Headed back to Foxwoods next week and wanted to revisit this topic. I plan to play the Asian Newport Room

Touch Games

Pre-shuffled 6 decks in 1 box...as mentioned above.

I will use MDB+ as Base

as the companion system..we are you guys suggesting the old school/regular Netbetting....or these newer NBetting methods in the more recent threads...2HiNB, Ultimate NB, etc......??

[Beating Foxwoods (newport-Asian Baccarat) shoes]

Ellis

Based on our newest NBetting threads

Would u say the best way to beat the high stakes Foxwoods room is MDB+ combined with Ultimate Net Betting?

[Beating Foxwoods (newport-Asian Baccarat) shoes]

Thanks Al and Ellis for the input. I play this place when I travel to both Boston, and Providence for Business.

[Beating Foxwoods (newport-Asian Baccarat) shoes]

Hi Team,

After all of the great intel we surfaced in the 5dimes.com shoe thread. I was hoping we could try it at other Casinos across that we have experience. I've played all of the Bac tables at Foxwoods over the last year or 2. However, most of my best play was in the Asian Newport Bac room.

For those playing already there, I was hoping we could share some intel on the best ways to beat their shoes:

1) I've noticed they used pre-shuffled cards (1 big white box of many decks)

2) Only$100 min tables have a tote board

3) All games are touch games

4) I've played both the 50 and 100 dollar tables, using NOR scorecard with mix results.

What is best way to play these at Newport room at Foxwoods? MBD, MDB+, NOR, other, combo play of NB and MDB+???

[Beating 5Dimes Live Dealer Shoes]

Thanks Ellis, I agree, we need a thread to gather intel from all of our members. We can determine the best games/online casinos to play, then determine the best way to beat those games.

I love the idea of playing online together via phone, with our best players, etc.

[Beating 5Dimes Live Dealer Shoes]

Hi Team,

I'm considering playing online, Live Dealer at 5dimes.com

For those playing already, I was hoping we could share some intel on the best ways to beat their shoes:

1) Are they regular cards (biased shoes)

2) Are they pre-shuffled (random shoes)

3) Other

What is best way to play these at 5dimes, MBD, MDB+, NOR, other, combo play of NB and MDB+???

[Scorecard for MDB+]

Sorry if I missed it, but for MDB+, do we have a new scorecard? Or are we using the NOR scorecard for the most part?

[We need an MDB Simulator/Analyzer?]

Given that we have some solid rules now for MDB, and we have a mechanical system to play, I am wondering if we can design a Analyzer that can be used in real-time when playing Live Casino Online Bac? We would have a solid tool to use that eliminates some of the player error that we could use to play nearly perfectly while playing online. Thoughts?

[Introduction to Million dollar Bac @ +5]

Idea:

Should we start two new threads:

1) Casinos we verified using Preshuffled/Fixed cards

2) Casinos we still believe use regular cards

Just a thought, we can have the top post fixed/stickied and Ellis can edit it to keep it accurage

and the rest of us can post of knowledge of casinos under it

[Introduction to Million dollar Bac @ +5]

thanks for the clarification Ellis

So, in MDB, the playing rules for BaS40, BaOTB4L, and BaS40M1 are the same as NOR S40, S40M1 and OTB4L. The only difference is the Ba means that we play a new betting progression 120123, etc.?

[+6 the hard way (S40M1 +5 version)]

I hope not tjfiles

I thought the idea behind +5 is that it can be used successfully at any table, any casino, online/offline, etc. We are working on a system for fixed cards, regular cards, etc. +5 should handle anything

[Introduction to Million dollar Bac @ +5]

I have a feeling this forum is going to be a great one. I like what I have seen so far.

Couple questions:

I like the idea that this will work for Pre-Shuffled cards and also requires zero table selection. We really need that. Just curious, will this also work well for those few casinos that still use "regular cards"? Will this work for shoes that have a strong bias?

[Introduction to Million dollar Bac @ +5]

What is the difference between systems..when i read s40 versus BaS40

and OTB4L and BaOTB4L?

I am confused by the "Ba"

[Million Dollar Forum-Signed up!]

This is my limited experience with shuffles at Casinos. I'd love to hear folks interpretation of them and the best way to approach playing them. I'm not sure I understand how these are being referred to on our forum. Below, I've listed what I've seen:

1) Cards that are newly brought to the table at 10:00am and changed every 24 hours. For a 24 hour period the table uses the same cards and they are hand shuffled by the dealer between shoes.

I assume most players use NOR on these shoes and that people are starting to use 4D and/or S4D +5

2) Cards that are shuffled by the shufflemaster type of machines between shoes and changed out on a periodic basis

How are these played?

3) Pre-shuffled (organized cards) brought to the dealer between shoes. The dealer then hand shuffles these cards and play begins.

Is #3 above that people refer to as preshuffled cards? What is the best way to play these?

[Million Dollar Forum-Signed up!]

Ellis

Can u please define pre-shuffled?

Are you speaking about the cards that come out in 8 deck boxes, that the dealer then shuffles by hand before the game begins?

[Shuffle questions]

I don't like bumping my own thread...however, Ellis, others...? Can you please give me your thoughts on this...

I am playing Bac the next two days and could use the input

[Shuffle questions]

This is my limited experience with shuffles at Casinos. I'd love to hear folks interpretation of them and the best way to approach playing them. I'm not sure I understand how these are being referred to on our forum. Below, I've listed what I've seen:

1) Cards that are newly brought to the table at 10:00am and changed every 24 hours. For a 24 hour period the table uses the same cards and they are hand shuffled by the dealer between shoes.

I assume most players use NOR on these shoes and that people are starting to use 4D and/or S4D +5

2) Cards that are shuffled by the shufflemaster type of machines between shoes and changed out on a periodic basis

How are these played?

3) Pre-shuffled (organized cards) brought to the dealer between shoes. The dealer then hand shuffles these cards and play begins.

Is #3 above that people refer to as preshuffled cards? What is the best way to play these?

[Questions about NOR]

Good questions. Here is my stab at answering them for you:

1) NOR is the base system and they one all/most members utilize in some fashion

2) NOR + is a few tweaks on the base system for those a bit more experienced who also prefer a bit more aggressive approach and betting progression to maximize profits on a good shoe

3) 4D is developed, but being re-tooled a bit and also simplified a bit before mass adoption of this system. Everything looks good so far, but it is being fine tuned. This is a graduated system that eliminates the need for table selection, but is only something most players can digest after they have a solid understanding of NOR

[New Videos on Net Betting Banker VS Player NOR Basics]

These are a great refresher even for those that know the game/system well already

[casino nite]

Good question. I don't have the answer like Ellis will. However, I'm wondering if seasoned players like those on this board should also look to find Casino night, events in town and exploit them

[Possible simplification for 4D...]

Thanks Ellis, I'm just brainstorming.

I'm wondering if members might select their favorite Live Dealer online casino

Next, use the analyzer as their 4D scorecard

and finally have a cheat sheet of 4D system rules and Netbetting tips