hi tom,have to call you old smokie,will leave off the OLD,LOL.you seem to no what's going on behind the screen,online,it just seem's to easy,but good practice's,make's you a better player,because you start to get a better @ clearer read.then come back here an talk about the shoes,an listen to others how they played,you can relate to it at no cost except time,such a bargin,smokie