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you put a bullfrog in a pot of hot water and he will jump out,but put him a pot of water and turn the heat up slowly he will just sit there until it's to late.that's what they mean by slow kill

Hi Ellis,here i thought you didn't like my name,moneybac,so That's why you would not talk to me,LOL

you got to be care full about vaccines,i understand there loaded with toxin, cancer,it's a soft kill,Disease control recommends it,i guess you better run for the hills,alex jones infowars has these top doctors on his show,and what they tell you,it's worse than what Ellis tells you about card counters

hi Ed,maybe you can help me out,i'm having a problem with this first shoe,playing otb4l,i get into trouble around hd 18 to 34,yet found playing SS,worked for me,i must be missing something.let me know thank's

good luck in mississippi

it all disappeared after i pressed the reply button last night,try again,hi M/VS,glad you were intrigued, i put the shoe up to see how you would react using 4D,as it had 14,1's,7,2's,that's normal,even 3,3's,but 4,4's,1,6,1,10 kind of messed things up,have been seeing this a lot lately,the 4D will tell you right away,but this shoe i'm not sure, i see maybe p/b or tt,pp,like a roller coast,then play the high's and low's norm i tried the rd,had a high point of 20+ at hd 42 then down hill to hd68,back up with 7+,reminds me of another shoe, nothing seem to work,then rd killed it. mv your test of S40/ADV(3-HI),sounds good too.thank's

your right norm 69,i don't know how i got 44,i must have pick up another card by mistake when i was typing this on the site,here it's the next day i'm still a little confused,i was trying to play otb4l,with 4d and look for the strongest or weakest,then the 10 in a row kind of confused me,i guest i need to study and relax more.like i said ,it might be me,went 2 days in a row.that's nice about this site,you can really or someone else can pick out your mistake,thank's norm,great catch

start a new thread for the hard shoe,maybe it's me,but i found this shoe to be a hard shoe to follow,i didn't know if i should share this shoe with you or not,didn't want to rain on your parade,you might throw me off the train,LOL.a what the hell,maybe it well help us out,if not then just delete.as i was at the casino last night,all 6 tables full,so i sat at the slot machine and practiced paper playing watching the monitor in between peoples head's,but it's neat,sometimes the game goes faster leaving you behind but you don't know the answer,so you take your time,then just look up to see if you got the right answer,bingo got that one right and who do i see bending down low peeking through the crowd ,the pit boss,you believe that,watching me like a hawk,but they don't have any power at that distance,they look so,like an idiot LOL.I THINK I GOT THEM SCARED,I FEEL LIKE THE HUNTED IS NOW THE HUNTER,getting much faster at this,a lot less mistakes.but i wasn't hitting them like the other night.so i was glad i was just paper playing this shoe.i'm sure were going to run into shoes like this in the future,or maybe it's just me. b1,2,2,2,1,1,10,1.p1,1,1,1,2,1,4,3,1,1,3,1.b3,1,2,2,3,1,4,4.p2,4,1,1,1.then everyone left,it was a short shoe then they reshuffled.average shoe is around 70 to 80+ hands,this one 44,not counting ties

good ideal,to start a new thread cc,i'm having the same problem getting in the 4d forum,played the 4d last night in a casino,getting much faster

me too HOW DO YOU GET INTO 4D FORUM

Gempak cards,or gemaco,are the biggest out of blue springs MO.64014.supply cards for the casinos,you can buy right from them or go on EBay,don't think your going to get the same preshuffled pack ,then you need a shufflemaster m2 or m3,i know someone who's friend bought all that.tried out the sufflemaster.now his friend in europe, will never play bacc with the shufflemaster,only plays hand shuffle,mean while this guy plays everyday at the casino with the shufflemaster.who knows

i have something smart to say,he,he,ya join the nor forum.can't get any smarter then dat.i know you want to join,so reach into those deep pockets with those short arms,take out that wallet close your eyes,don't think and blow off the dust after the moths have all flew away,bust open that wallet and join LOL

i second that

so i guess the people in the nor forum need to forum a nor forum group only ,makes sense,thank's

does that mean we don't talk about 4d even if were not in the 4d private forum but we no how it works and we use it. just my 2c worth

don't forget Keith,i think he started the forum,LOL,TEAM WORK

i'll have to renew my skype,haven't used it in yrs,but i'm gamed,sounds good

they are only powerful if you let them get to you,i ask myself why are they like this,or is this a warning,i'm at the wrong table,if not,i just start making fun of them ,LOL

hey dark i like you first answer,idiot them,that's more fun,like roches

hay Ellis,then there was nikola tesla,he was infamous,

h56 aren't you in mode 2, Eillis if you wait that means 0 on 56, h60 shouldn't that be b, h68 is on b,is that right,a little confused

nice going godsend

didn't know were to put this,talking about shoes,was at the casino last night ,and saw 18 p,in a row with 2 ties,then went back to normal,at the table the dealer lets you turn over the cards,it was a $25 table

i'v had them do a double shuffle on me twice,pitboss walks over and stare's at the machine looking more dumber than ever,dealer will look's at him,they mumble about the button. this is at the end of the shoe,then they press the button,and the dealer will say it's going to take 15min.of course he forgot to press the button.but that shoe was good for me,but the second time they did that another time, they got it right,i found a bunch of score cards the second time at the table.they were all chop,so i played.good shoe,then the double shuffle,i wasn't ready for this,because i did good last time,turned into a f on bank,then 25 hands later on player,then zig zag,then all over the place, cleaned everyone out.i learned some new words from china LOL.i wasn't going tell you about this,no one will believe it,i just had a bad day,the casino's don't cheat,there my friend.LOL.

shereevanest your right about the shufflemaster machine,put the cards back in order,they say the save money.don't have to pay dealers to do that.i wonder what else they can do with shufflemaster,they have updated with newer models since then.