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Hello Keith. I' m reading my NBJ manual and I have an important question to

ask. In the casino where I play there is no hole card for the dealer. To

explain what I mean... dealer gives the first swing of cards to all players

and gets one for her self. Then gives the second swing of cards but she is

not taking any other card (hidden or hole card as you name it). Instead 1st

base players starts his play and dealer takes his hit cards in the end. In

this case what happens? How can I identify what is the next dealer's hit

card (as soon as there is no hole card)? The decision tables for 1st base

and 3rd base remain the same for this occasion?

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Hi Violater. Ellis here, We just went over that qyestion a short while ago. Look at the thread "I am a new member here Stan here" . If you still have questions after reading that thread, I'll be happy to aswer them in this thread.

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Violator77: Did you get squared away on your question?

Oh yes. Thank you guys. It was really enlightening. As about your warning sentence in the end about visiting the forum, I would like you to know that in Europe we have lot's of hours difference with U.S.A. Although everybody needs some time to read and read again so to understand, except the fact that I work. So when I come back from work I study. Anyway, last weekend I visited my local casino just to stand and watch. What I saw was a typical rule game of 6 decks - one2six suffling machine and the card picking by the dealer was exactly the same way as you say in the manual. What I noticed is that it is kind difficult sometimes to determine the clump especially when there are 3 players. The continuous high or low cards last only for 5 or 6 cards and then it was changing again. Sounds like bad blackjack? So as i read your reply, you recommend to play 3rd base right? What about the 1st base?

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Oh yes. Thank you guys. It was really enlightening. As about your warning sentence in the end about visiting the forum, I would like you to know that in Europe we have lot's of hours difference with U.S.A. Although everybody needs some time to read and read again so to understand, except the fact that I work. So when I come back from work I study. Anyway, last weekend I visited my local casino just to stand and watch. What I saw was a typical rule game of 6 decks - one2six suffling machine and the card picking by the dealer was exactly the same way as you say in the manual. What I noticed is that it is kind difficult sometimes to determine the clump especially when there are 3 players. The continuous high or low cards last only for 5 or 6 cards and then it was changing again. Sounds like bad blackjack? So as i read your reply, you recommend to play 3rd base right? What about the 1st base?

Violator, first you are to be commended for visiting your local casino for the sole purpose of studying the enemy. More players should do this.

Esp. in 6 deck, don't expect clean clumps. Go by mostly high and mostly low. It is not necessary to be right ALL the time. The object is to be right MOST of the time.

We are familiar with the one2six continuous shuffler. This machine presents very readable clumping. Mad Dog, one of our best players, favors playing against this machine. You'll do well to study the clumping this machine produces. With study it becomes quite predictable.

First base is good when two things are occurring at the same time. 1.) You are predicting your first card tens at better than 4 out of 13 and 2. The number of players is such that you tend to get a high card with those tens.

Be careful of games where you have good predictability of first card tens but the player number is such that you usually get a low card with those tens.

In general, The more random the cards are the more they favor third base. The more clumped they are the more they favor first.

If your schedule permits, check out new cards in the morning. At some casinos, boxed card clumping with new cards is extremely predictable for 1st base and gives you a great start for your day.

Always remember that most games are not worth playing. Don't settle for a poor game. Take your time and only select the best tables. Good Luck!

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