O/R count

[Frank77]

What is the relevance of the O/R count. If you are starting a new shoe whatever happened to the last shoe would have no relevance to what will happen to the new shoe. If I understand correctly you wait for the first bet and then place your first bet opposite and play opposites until yopu have an LC and use the LC when it applies, so where does the O/R come into it ?

[ECD]

What is the relevance of the O/R count. If you are starting a new shoe whatever happened to the last shoe would have no relevance to what will happen to the new shoe. If I understand correctly you wait for the first bet and then place your first bet opposite and play opposites until yopu have an LC and use the LC when it applies, so where does the O/R come into it ?

The OR count is a precise count of chop vs streak or, to be more precise, opposites vs repeats.

First, with a little more study you will see that there ARE such things as streaky tables and choppy tables; Streaky shoe colors and choppy shoe colors; Streaky new card preps and choppy new card preps. Streaky hand shuffles and choppy hand shuffles; streaky machine settings and choppy machine settings. No 3 shuffle routine can randomize 8 decks of cards. It would require 7 shuffles to the 8th power to randomize 8 decks of cards. This would take days.

If the cards were random, Basic Strategy alone would beat BJ and there would be no casinos. They use the same shuffle techniques and the same machines in Bac. In Bac, if the cards were random, casino Bac profits would be limited to commission and casinos could not afford to deal Baccarat. But, as is, Bac is the highest profit maker for casinos of all table games by a mile.

For instance: in BJ, Basic Strategy wins 43% of the hands overall and the casino drop retention is 15%.

In Baccarat, a 50/50 game, casino profits went from 3% of the drop in the'90s to 26% of the drop today. Casinos could not achieve a 900% increase in profits if the cards were random. Their per capita profits would be stagnate.

A choppy table can remain choppy all day and a streaky table can remain streaky. This would be impossible with random cards.

30 years of profitable play and hundreds of thousands of shoes have clearly demonstrated that Baccarat is not random. If it were, Baccarat would be impossible to beat and all Baccarat players would be purely stupid.

That is what "random" means. Synonyms would be "unpredictable" or "unbeatable".

Yet, players right here have CLEARLY demonstrated time and again that Baccarat is clearly beatable.

The OR count tells us if the shoe at hand is streaky, choppy, or neutral.

S40 beats chop (+ OR count) hands down.

F2 beats streak (- OR count) hands down.

That fact is the basis of the S40A approach.

To that we add OTB4L which beats Neutral hands down.

And we add RD1 which beats a shortage of 1's.

So, the OR count is your basis of system selection.

The SAP count identifies the LC event.

We employ both.

The counts are consistent in about 90% of shoes.

They are inconsistent in about 10% of shoes.

Therefore once you have mastered the entire S40A technology you can enjoy about a 90% overall win rate just as we did on the Hollywood trip.

And once you have mastered LC technology your winning shoe avg will be far more than your losing shoe avg just as demonstrated on the Hollywood trip. The Hollywood trip was just ONE of hundreds of public Baccarat exhibitions.

So to answer your question directly, SAP tells you how to apply sys 40. OR tells you which system to play.

Edited November 2, 2010 by ECD