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The local casinos in my area here in Vancouver Canada have no commissions at most baccarat tables which is a bonus! The kickeris that the dragon betting can effect the payout on certain dragon bet wins where the winning side does not get paid out. When this happens with nor do we count this as equal to a tie? Or as is with zero bet? Or exclude it from the OR count. Etc...

How should this be dealt with?

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The local casinos in my area here in Vancouver Canada have no commissions at most baccarat tables which is a bonus! The kickeris that the dragon betting can effect the payout on certain dragon bet wins where the winning side does not get paid out. When this happens with nor do we count this as equal to a tie? Or as is with zero bet? Or exclude it from the OR count. Etc...

How should this be dealt with?

Right, you really are paying commission in that a 3 card Bank win (dragon) pushes instead of a win for you. Different casinos may differ a little on exactly how they do this. I think the best thing is to ignore commission just as we do regular commission and count it as a win. Otherwise it might goof up your cash mgt. So we end up at an actual +9 instead of + 10.

Consider that we normally stop at +10 but then we pay commission. So it all works out about the same.

Somebody should check The Wizard's site to see how often this Bank 3 card win comes up. I know that in the 2 commissionless shoes I played in AC last seminar, it never came up. Consider that we are only in a shoe for an average of about 36 plays so our odds of actually paying no commission are about twice that of the other players.

Another thought is to put a $1 bet on dragon for every $25 whenever you are betting Bank if they let you do this. Figure that would cost you about $18 if it never hits which is pretty close to normal commission. And, when it does hit it more than pays your commission so you can stop putting up your white units.

Even though "commissionless" probably costs us a little more I sort of like it because it speeds up the game. Ha, it probably hurts the waitress more than it hurts us. Normally she would get our white chips.

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In a certain case of this happening I suppose it is quite possible that this may happen upon a progression bet so we may actually be under 3 units but use the the unit count as signal to leave the shoe

It is nice that the commission is not paid so I see it as an advantage as long as we keep away from dragon temptation. Your suggestion is good but must kept in control

Thanks

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