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Showed up to the casino to play NOR, with the idea to hit and run, since I really didn't want to stay 5,6, 7.... hours...family dinner this Sunday.

This is actual playing and shoe info from Edgewater Casino in Vancouver:

TBTBBBBTBBBPPBBTPBBBTTBPTTBBPBBBB (STARTED HERE...Since table was full earlier) and due to obvious O/R count went with system F, which I believe is playing repeats. Correct me if I am wrong. Of course as soon as I started to play system F but got rattled and ended up down 3 units by the end of the shoe. I didn't stick to the system...and changed to system 40 about 6 or 7 hands in the switched back to F at one point. Really bad playing I know. Can someone post how this should of been played? I can get rattled in shoes it seems...

BPTTBPBPBPBPPPPPPBBBPBBPPPPBYPPBTPBTBBPBTBBP (down 3 units)

Next shoe

BPBP(started here with system 40 since O/R count already +3)

PBPPBBBPPBBPBPB (stopped playing here)

next hands were BPT...then I left. Ended up 7 units and left. Didn't want to give it back and was ready to leave.

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hamster nice f shoe,what took you so long,your being to carefull.jump in there 1 unit,flat bet until your up 2 units, then start your prog,and don't put a time limit or watch on your playing,bad energy,that will mess you up, you know your going to find a good shoe when your in a hurry to leave. murrphy's law.get those t's and y's out so i can read your score card,i don't play t's.LOL.you surprise me how carefull you are after seeing the way you use to play. now that rattles me just reading about it,at least you got out with 7 units.so your not that rattled.good luck

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hamster nice f shoe,what took you so long,your being to carefull.jump in there 1 unit,flat bet until your up 2 units, then start your prog,and don't put a time limit or watch on your playing,bad energy,that will mess you up, you know your going to find a good shoe when your in a hurry to leave. murrphy's law.get those t's and y's out so i can read your score card,i don't play t's.LOL.you surprise me how carefull you are after seeing the way you use to play. now that rattles me just reading about it,at least you got out with 7 units.so your not that rattled.good luck

Thanks for the reply Moneybac

I agree going to play Bacarat on a limited time is very very bad engery. You are actually asking for things to go bad early. I think I was down 9 units at one point.

The reason I took so long to join the F Shoe, is I got there about 15 to 20 hands already played and was waiting for a seat to open. I don't like putting bets over people shoulders...that is just me...

Can you type hand for hand how you would of played the first shoe from the point I joined?

Hamster

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i think you have to teach yourself to walk away,and wait for the next new shoe, your mind is already got the babbler going.what if i miss the family dinner,LOL you want to focus like a prize fighter.he's not worried about a family dinner, he's worried if he's going to make it out of the ring alive in 1 piece.LOL

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The answers to all your questions and more are in the private NOR forum. And once you sign up, many more members will be glad to help

I am testing NOR out on my own before deciding to join.

Obviously, I don't have the manual so just going by videos and some posts.

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So, your posts are an attempt to get the members to teach you, FOR FREE, what they have paid money to learn? Am I correct in that assessment?

I don't see it that way...

I am trying to see if NOR actually works or at least has potential. Give me some credit for trying it live with real money without even knowing all the details.

I've never paid a large sum of money for any gambling system. A few poker books but that is about it.

Do you expect me and anyone that comes across NOR or any gambling system to just purchase it and hope for the best?

Nothing wrong with doing research...especially when it comes to money. I think Ellis and Keith would agree...

I don't see anything wrong with my posts.

I give Keith and Ellis credit...they put up videos, and at one point I think they discussed a lot of scams out there...

These guys have been around quite a while and obviously have a following so that is why I am here to begin with.

Much respect to all players,

Hamster

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Of course, you wouldn't see it that way. My point is NOR is the intellectual property of another. The members here can help you once you become a member, but we have no right to give away another's property. If Ellis or Keith choose to do so that is their business because it is theirs to give. Use some of the money you are saving NOT playing your system and join us.

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This is actual playing and shoe info from Edgewater Casino in Vancouver:

TBTBBBBTBBBPPBBTPBBBTTBPTTBBPBBBB (STARTED HERE...

BPTTBPBPBPBPPPPPPBBBPBBPPPPBYPPBTPBTBBPBTBBP (down 3 units)

Next shoe

BPBP(started here with system 40 since O/R count already +3)

PBPPBBBPPBBPBPB (stopped playing here)

next hands were BPT...then I left. Ended up 7 units and left. Didn't want to give it back and was ready to leave.

Hammie,

Once you figure out everything there is to know about NOR and all that, go back and read a few more sections and "learn" how to post up a transcribed shoe here.

It will help in the long run.

MVS

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Hammie,

Once you figure out everything there is to know about NOR and all that, go back and read a few more sections and "learn" how to post up a transcribed shoe here.

It will help in the long run.

MVS

Hamster, what MVS is saying is nobody can decipher your shoe as posted. Nor would anyone try.

We would post your first shoe this more professional way:

B8221412

P15(8x1)6

B31241211311

B21

Note that we post in columns of 20.

Ties are meaningless and Ys are meaningless to us. What is a Y ? Did you yawn?

We call this an SS shoe (Strong Side). This common type is the easiest shoe type to beat. Members here would know to play F3.

Note that the first col is 16 to 4 Bank

Starting at play 2 we would already be at +23 at play 34. We lose a 1,2 and quit with +20 at play 36. Our highest bet was a single 3.

You need to stay out of casinos until we get a chance to teach you how to play. Meanwhile you are just throwing your money away.

You already have more than sufficient proof. We aren't like other forums. We have serious winners here with serious methods. You've already donated more to the casinos than it cost to join BTC. The members here have decided not to answer any more of your questions. It is not fair to give you for free what they paid to learn. We will be happy to answer your questions once you are a member. At $25 unit play, you just blew $575 on that one shoe.

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Hamster, what MVS is saying is it is way to hard to decipher your shoe.

We would post this shoe this way:

B8221412

P15111111116

B31241211311

B21

Note that we post in columns of 20

Ties are meaningless and Ys are meaningless to us. What is a Y ? Did you yawn?

We call this an SS shoe (Strong Side). This is the easiest shoe type to beat.

Note that the first col is 16 to 4 Bank

Starting at play 2 we would already be at +23 at play 34. We lose a 1,2 and quit with +20 at play 36. Our highest bet was a single 3.

You need to stay out of casinos until we get a chance to teach you how to play. Meanwhile you are just throwing your money away.

You already have more than sufficient proof. We aren't like other forums. We have serious winners here with serious methods. You've already donated more to the casinos than it cost to join BTC. The members here have decided not to answer any more of your questions. It is not fair to give you for free what they paid to learn. We will be happy to answer your questions once you are a member. At $25 unit play, you just blew $575 on that one shoe.

TY Ellis...

I was wondering how to post a shoe properly on the forum.

The Y was a typo and meant to be a T...which you don't want to see anyways, which I understand. Never bet it and never follow it...horrible horrible house edge! Banker or Player only.

I will stop asking questions in the forum, but I will probably still post my experiences.

NOte - I wasn't scared to enter the shoe, it just got there mid shoe. No way would I ignore that early strong side.

I've noticed a lot of gamblers in the casino are the same people. I figure these people can't control themselves...

I imagine Ellis has seen it all... but this one young asian girl is incredibly intense and bets $100 to $500 a hand. She usually wins and the dealer said she makes a killing...I have no idea how she plays though. She reminds me of a female UFC fighter entering the cage! LOL

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TY Ellis...

I was wondering how to post a shoe properly on the forum.

The Y was a typo and meant to be a T...which you don't want to see anyways, which I understand. Never bet it and never follow it...horrible horrible house edge! Banker or Player only.

I will stop asking questions in the forum, but I will probably still post my experiences.

NOte - I wasn't scared to enter the shoe, it just got there mid shoe. No way would I ignore that early strong side.

I've noticed a lot of gamblers in the casino are the same people. I figure these people can't control themselves...

I imagine Ellis has seen it all... but this one young asian girl is incredibly intense and bets $100 to $500 a hand. She usually wins and the dealer said she makes a killing...I have no idea how she plays though. She reminds me of a female UFC fighter entering the cage! LOL

BTW - I said hi to this young woman a few hours ago, away from the table and she looked at me with a death stare! Talk about all business...

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BTW - I said hi to this young woman a few hours ago, away from the table and she looked at me with a death stare! Talk about all business...

Don't be fooled. I've seen thousands just like her. I've known some to lose millions. The casinos like to exploit the Marketing potential of such players. They add insult to injury. Everybody watches when they win. Nobody is there when they lose. You can't play this game by superstition. There are no Asian systems worth the paper... Our own Asian players here at BTC know all that. Baccarat has been called a national Asian disgrace by Asian leaders. Casino profits in Asia support that claim. You are being hoodwinked. Casinos are good at that. BTW, you learn all about that sort of thing here at BTC. You need to learn how to use the casino's own tactics against them.

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Don't be fooled. I've seen thousands just like her. I've known some to lose millions. The casinos like to exploit the Marketing potential of such players. They add insult to injury. Everybody watches when they win. Nobody is there when they lose. You can't play this game by superstition. There are no Asian systems worth the paper... Our own Asian players here at BTC know all that. Baccarat has been called a national Asian disgrace by Asian leaders. Casino profits in Asia support that claim. You are being hoodwinked. Casinos are good at that. BTW, you learn all about that sort of thing here at BTC. You need to learn how to use the casino's own tactics against them.

Well, the one thing she definately has going for her is her intensity!

Thanks for the heads up... I've heard a couple horror stories just in my handful of visits.

One asian guy who is approx 55...is there day and night. Says he sleeps in his car a few hours and maybe goes home to shower.

He likes the $3.95 breakfast special and the free noodle cups they give out during the day.

He works as a caretaker of a small apartment building and sometimes rushes off to do repair work then comes storming back. I believe this since he is occassionally wearing pants with paint on it.

He told me he was down 500k.... geez...and his wife hates him...:confused:

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