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First post. Been digesting a LOT of info!

First question - as commisions add up, your score in unit counts doesn't reflect the actual 'units' you may have won in your bankoll.

In other words, it is possible to have less money than when you started playing and still show a +5 on your scorecard. This observation comes rom playing for free online, not in a casino.

So my question is, do you use your scorecard to show you your stop loss/gain or do you look at the units reflected in the actual amount of money you have won?

thanks in advance!

J

- if you don't understand what I am asking, I can post a shoe showing what I mean.

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commission is not something I bother to count. its inevitable like taxes and death. Units won is units won. better spend your time looking for higher hit rate or better table or making sure your score sheet is correct

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First post. Been digesting a LOT of info!

First question - as commisions add up, your score in unit counts doesn't reflect the actual 'units' you may have won in your bankoll.

In other words, it is possible to have less money than when you started playing and still show a +5 on your scorecard. This observation comes rom playing for free online, not in a casino.

So my question is, do you use your scorecard to show you your stop loss/gain or do you look at the units reflected in the actual amount of money you have won?

thanks in advance!

J

- if you don't understand what I am asking, I can post a shoe showing what I mean.

Commission is 5% of Bank wins or about 1.25% of the total money bet.

Given the very small progressions we bet,

our commission is seldom more than 1 unit in a complete 8 deck shoe. (A unit is your min bet.)

Therefore we ignore commission from the standpoint of stop wins and losses.

Think of commission as money you pay the dealer to deal the cards.

While most Mathematicians include commission in the odds of the game, We do not.

We look at it this way. The odds of the game are 50/50 + commission.

We do not include commission in the odds of the game any more than we would include waitress tips.

When you play a full shoe with a 123 4 progression, your commission is about 1 unit.

Your flip a coin odds of the next play being Bank or Player are 50/50 regardless of commission.

However, in a shoe that ends up 80% Player and 20% Bank:

What were your odds in that shoe every time you bet Player???

And if you bet Player every time, your commission would be Zero.

What I'm saying is that skill can defeat the table odds as well as the commission.

The object Is: use skill to be on the winning side more often than the losing side.

And that is what we teach here.

A similar thing you will come across in your studies is that Bank has slightly better odds of winning than Player.

Many have tried to take advantage of that fact by designing various Bank only systems.

None were successful. The fact is in the short glimpse of time of a single shoe, Player could win the next ten shoes in a row. You are better off to ignore tha Bank advantage and go by what is winning in the shoe at hand.

Every shoe ever dealt favored something.

Some favored Bank and some favored Player.

Some favored Opposites and Some favored Repeats.

And some favored 1's or 2s or 3s or 4s

Or any combination of the above.

Some even favor random.

We have counts that tell you what a shoe is favoring.

From there it is just a question of quitting while you are ahead.

This game CAN be beat. It is just a question of having the right teacher.

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