Keith Smith

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First game started at end of Shoe is on the bottom quick win. Second game is the other first top two cards.

YEs pretty close but it wasn't RD it was straight repeats then went on Z/Z run. I am trying to find out what it takes to beat bad table selection. Also trying to ascertain what statistics are relevant in these games. Runs are (whether straight or zig zag) and opposites. I need a bigger spread to beat these games as it allows you to make a mistake and not lose and also to beat things closer to random. I know in a few instances I could have chosen a better approach to the game but hind sight is perfect. When you scan a played game you have a good sense of what will beat it no matter what it throws at you these are real time with real money.

Here are my shoes from play today at Hollywood

It was screwing with 5 dollar units but it isn't where you are in the middle of the game that counts, it where you are at the end of the day.

Some nights it's a little easier ( i was playing green tonight BTW and not nickels)

No one told me I didn't know what day it was on the last post hahaha. Here is wild shoe I played at Hollywood tonight and then also an F shoe I should have jumped on a bit sooner. Even with the big Vig on the first one somehow the card said +1 but ended up actually +3 and the vig paid. Not sure where the error was. Anyway got out of a jam and ended up winning these two also. [ATTACH]2232[/ATTACH][ATTACH]2233[/ATTACH]

http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6665&highlight=Manual+Sample+Shoes

I won two shoes the first one I stopped at plus 6 but must have left the damn card at the table I went to scan it and can't find it. The next shoe I started from the beginning and you can see how I played it. Regards [ATTACH]2231[/ATTACH]

I played 1 shoe last nite and then it was so crowded at the 1 Bac table and smoke getting blown in my face, I went and played some poker. They are dealing repeats now. I'll go back and and play a few shoes today and post tonight. The start of the shoe was about hand 20and indicated all otb4l HEy Guys and Gals don't forget the early bird special is ending for the AC seminar on the 31st sign up now!!.

Well at a glance without betting real money is easy but since you ask If I saw that show start I probably would have bet straight repeats.

I bought in for $1000 dollars all green. Stop loss, since I only have 1 table if I lose three shoes in a row I would probably quit. I doubt I have ever hit a 1000 down at green, at least I really can't remember when.

You know we play BAC really well but I want to let you guys/gals know that many of you are missing the boat when BAC conditions are bad. There are always plenty of BJ table around. The ZPB and NBJ are the richest blackjack text you could ever get your hands on. I really miss all the Blackjack too. It is getting to the point where is will be hard for Ellis to get around to play as much as we like and I am trying to get the BJ forum going so we can tap into his expertise ( I might also add mine as well. We were playing partners for years in AC). I would hope that many of you would pick up NBJ and ZPB I have them for $200 and the support forum is $5.00 a month. As many of you old NBJ players know we traveled all over the country for years playing Blackjack. It is a great game and it all started with that. IF you think Baccarat is non random wait till you take a close look at Blackjack. We show you how to predict the hole card, hit card, and how to insure. If you become proficient at BJ and also Baccarat there won't be a casino in the world that you can't walk into and win. And you will know you can. If your an old NBJ player and have the text, you can join the support forum for $5.00 a month. Look We are not going to do this Lifetime support there for Free Ellis thinks he will never get old and not play. SO the $5.00 a month is a nominal fee to insure he can make a few bucks from this. We are looking to get a few 100 players involved and perhaps we can reach the levels of membership we had in the early 90s. I guess we should have kept our mailing list Uncle Ellis. Keith

Play for your stakes and stay there you are most vulnerable when you raise the stakes.

IS this where you play I was going to try to get an account there http://www.dublinbet.com/

I think that while you can start with a small bankroll yes but you have to protect yourself from the human factor. Were going to make mistakes, and play bad games, make wrong choices and bets. Your goal should not be to keep increasing your bankroll to up the stakes but to increase your bankroll so you can make your risk of ruin next to null. We given you the best possible chance of succeeding now keep improving on that by adding to your bank and units.

Well of course you have to watch casino strategy, but I disagree with not having a substantial bankroll. Dave from I'm spirit ask me why I just play quarters I told him because at that level they will never get me or hurt me to a point where I couldn't play. What happened to Mark M who had a huge bankroll to play. If he would have stayed at reasonable stakes instead of getting greedy he would still be in the game making money. When you play as a pro you shouldn't get greedy, when you work at a job you expect x amount of dollars a week. You don't get a raise every week. And this also brings up a good point of why you don't make all the money you need in a few shots. Because they will get you if you try that. If you try to make $1,000,000 in one shot they are going to do everything they can to ball you up and they will succeed. In addition the tremendous pressure you put on yourself is almost unbearable. Play for green and take your +8 and +10s man they add up. Build the bankroll not to up the stakes but so you can take some of it out and make it more units so you can always play.

Also too while it would be easy to say I should have started with otb4l, i saw the shoes before that one which is what I based it on. I probably could have made a better start decision but hey Im playing for real in a casino. You have to have some tolerance for mistakes and adjustments. It doesn't matter if you end up winning That situation is passed, some will translate to another situation but some won't. According to what I saw in the previous shoes, it should have stayed choppy it didn't. I myself can't play with limited table selection and play tight to -8 and 1,2,3 I would never get to play. In Vegas yes I'm the first one to say ok we are at +8 were outta here ( and I was), but I don't have those conditions here. So i increase the risk and the progression to etch out wins. Christ Kit we have been down a 100 units and came all the way back and then some when playing in turning stone and foxwoods. From those experiences it is very hard for the casino to beat you if you have the system matched and play up 1 down 1 or 2. Ron and myself proved it's hard for them to beat you if you play the same system and have a bank roll and just keep going at them. It takes balls. But in a non table selection situation I would say you can expect to change systems more often. If you have table selection cherry pick your spots with NOR. K

I got one table at Hollywood casino and sometimes it only has 6 chairs. I wanted to play a bit and besides, who can learn anything from easy shoes. I was playing for the most part up 1 down 1 which will have more variance. If you match the system with the shoe you can pretty much bet anyway you want and win. It wasn't real hard betting on an 8 in a row. I wish I was betting up as you win.

Here is one of the shoes from yesterday at Hollywood that I played. It is quite a contrast to what we are seeing there when we did the seminar. All the shoes I played yesterday we F or OTB4L. While we advocate the top bet of three I am doing much better in the long run with a up 1 down 1 betting strategy. They have the absolute worst Baccarat cards at Hollywood Casino Regards KEith

After an opposite, bet opposite after a repeat, bet repeat.

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Yes it does

Ok Just in case these guys think I am clowning around you are attacking my business and this pirating on the internet is done without any thought. To all the clowns who don't think we have the funding to do it you will find something out fast. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Keith Smith <keith@keithsmith.com> Date: Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:48 AM Subject: Copyright infringment To: "David W. DeLuce" <DWD@jdsw.com> Cc: Ellis Ripple <ellis_858@hotmail.com> Hi Dave I was recently made aware of another site selling and advertising to teach our manual we sell on BeatTheCasino.com. This one is a bit more succesful than the Blackjack 101 case you handled for me as our manual sells for $600.00 and we have had quite a bit of success selling it, Recently we just did a seminar in Vegas and are planning one in AC. The last thing I need is someone telling people he will give them a copy for free which is what he is doing. Do you have someone in your firm who can advise and handle this case. Thread that alerted us and also I am getting question from people who said they bought from a reseller. I only licensed to 1 reseller in Las Vegas. Regards Keith Here is the message that has just been posted: *************** In BF there's a guy stating that he can teach NOR. The thread is: S40-OTB4L-F2-3=NOR system However the support from Ellis can't be substituted from a Mr.Noone! BF is ******************* S40 and f2 and F3 are all copywritten material form my website. The whois shows this information as the site owner Registrant: Michael Baccarat 4365 Longview Ave Miami, Florida 33186 United States Registered through: Go Daddy Domain Name: ******************* Created on: 04-Apr-08 Expires on: 04-Apr-12 Last Updated on: 03-Feb-11 Administrative Contact: Baccarat, Michael baccaratforums@******************* 4365 Longview Ave Miami, Florida 33186 United States 3052544386 Fax -- Technical Contact: Baccarat, Michael baccaratforums@******************* 4365 Longview Ave Miami, Florida 33186 United States 3052544386 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.LINODE.COM NS2.LINODE.COM NS3.LINODE.COM NS4.LINODE.COM Contacts Linode, LLC 329 E. Jimmie Leeds Road Suite A Galloway, NJ 08205 Phone: (609) 593-7103 Fax: (615) 250-4945 SIP: 0@office.linode.com ISN: 0*862 (FWD, dial **012 first) -- Keith Smith BeatTheCasino.com

Folks, People have made me aware of someone reselling the NOR manual. Can someone point me to the website that is offering it. I am going to have my Attorney contact them. They are reselling copyrighted material without permission. There is no ask them to stop just tell me who they are. The last case was handled by my copyright attorney when we sued for copyright infringment of Blackjack 101. The case was settle out of court and we were awarded all the proceeds. Not only did we sue the person responsible for doing it but also the web hosting company for not taking the appropriate action to remove copyrighted information once they were made aware. Their website is jdsw.com. My attorney who handled the case for us was David Deluce. Any information is appreciated Keith