trbfla
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With 4d sometimes you do have to go to jail and collect 200.
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So with the 9 bet progression we are looking to win more 1 and 2 right. This does require a much larger buy in though
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Would you really want me to post your pm's about how badly you play and how you have asked me for help over the past few months trbfla???
Ya... I think you fall in the category of a member with more money than brains and join your friend Ruebel and gman7 now there's a real winner who doesn't have a clue as to what he is talking about.
We all paid for what's inclusive to the NOR content... A lifetime membership and yet you guys just brush it off like it was nothing.
You guys are so weak. Pitiful followers who need help.
What I said was all FACTs but you can't handle the truth, that's why you are responding in such a manner as above.
BTW, thank you to all those members with their supportive comment in my pm box over the past 48 hrs. Especially about the member who purchased Twister and got burnt badly.
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I do not mind if you post my PM.....I am not moved by this at all. I am not ashamed at all to admit it.
I started my BTC membership Nov 28th and learned NOR and NOR+. Like all newbies, I encountered issues.
My local casino shoes were much different than others such as Gold Coast and Tunica. I did lose quite a bit trying to learn as we all do.
So I used the forum as it is intended and looked to network with other members in search of help.
This does not make me weak. It makes me humble and grateful. Many members here have helped me out and some continue to do so. They were very giving of their time and willing and eager to HELP OTHERS OUT since most people have been in the same place I was...new and just starting.
Some members continue to be a resource...its called relationship building and I am very grateful to the members who over the last 5 months who have helped me to improve my game and see that horses have no names when the 4d is rocking. THANK YOU GUYS......and gal.
Yes I did ask you for help. Yes, I did seek your guidance..but you flat out refused. You turned your back on others just starting only to feed your EGO.
and your arrogance. This is your right to do so.....I am happy that you have found a system that works. WHY are you still here?
I have heard your facts and really don't care one bit about them. I can handle the truth, what I cant handle is you continuing to try to imped others from learning by filling up forums with gossip.
You have issues with Ellis and continue to spew them here like a whiny gossiping 4th grader-this my friend makes you weak. Act like a man and handle your beef with Ellis like a gentleman would....if your capable of behaving as such.
I am here to learn and get better. You are already there congrads. We are all happy for you and wish you the best. We hope to one day be there as well.
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Why do members continue to post negativity when they already have it figured out but don't want to help others?
Hooray your system works...why not go play it and leave the forum and take all your negative trash with you so those of us who wanna learn can do so without all your propaganda bs.
If you have a beef with Ellis handle it like a man....spewing your filthy laundry is akin to 4th graders.
You don't wanna contribute fine your perogative but don't clog up forums
I'm not saying don't pm me ha so don't even ask!!!!
That line is worth 10 a month
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Keith
Are we going to get a manual with the webinar purchase?
How can we test to make sure we can even view the webinar ?
Thanks
Todd
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In a way it was good for MVS to post that particular shoe and then play it with the wrong system. It's a good demonstation of the 3 bet. But to get to that 3 the shoe incurred the 3rd 2iar inside of 10 plays W/O a 3. Think about how rare that is. Shit happens but not every shoe. Once the OR count went strong to plus if he hadn't started with BaS40, he should have switched to it. When you get to a 3 bet it usually means you are playing the wrong system. Go back and check.
Ellis what makes bas40 different then s40 and what makes baotb4l
Different then otb4l
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Great question blue
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Ellis,
On this shoe are some great examples of the s40....
But here is a question-you played right thru the +5 to bigger wins. Earlier it was suggested that after 5 wins we wait out 10 hands and play the shoe anew. While it worked out for you in this shoe, I see the benefit to +5 to get out before the worm turns. So I guess my question is, how do we know when to sit out 10 vs. playing onward.....does the or count help us, is it a personal choice?
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Ellis or someone, we defineately need a million dollar thread with all the rules for ba40 etc
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Again, always give your wife half your winnings. It shuts them up. In fact, they start kicking you out of the house. Worked for me.
Ellis
What's the progression in giving them half....is it straight 123 or more like 5% 10%? Do you have any idea how much damage can be done shopping on south beach...I'll never get to the next tier lol
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Keith you know southeast coast is beautiful this time of year
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Ellis thank you for this plan. It gives you everything you need for a self paced growth strategy and a back up plan for when you do falter. I'm putting this one in my manual for sure.
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Ellis
What were the tiers? When do you move up from $10 base bets ?
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Ellis, Mike, Jaybird, kdawg, baccdj.......ok everyone
Before you make a sticky thread on this, one quick question about bankroll and money management.
Everyone is at their own place in personal comfort levels, but do you have a general rule of thumb on unit size increases?
Meaning, our goal is say is +5 a shoe right.
So if we start with greens $25 and say we win 20 shoes net, because we may lose some shoes, that's +100 units.
Is now the time to increase our base bet to say $50 per hand until we reach another 20 +5 shoes again?
Do you have a rule of thumb for tiered unit size increases?
Thank you
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I haven't been on forum in a couple of weeks. I just read all of the million dollar threads. Ironically I have been playing very similar to that over the last month at both Aria and Mirage in Vegas. I grabbed some snippits from several threads, and I'm putting them all into one place after making subtle changes. This is how I have been winning:
Not all tables are playable. Just play the obvious ones. The game is not about guts. It's about smarts - and discipline.
Objective: +5 units
Best to wait for 3 events and about ten plays
Betting progression is 1-2-2, stop.
After 3 consecutive wins, increase 1 unit. On next loss, go back to 1-2-2.
Never make a 2 unit bet if your score is -2 or worse, flat bet till you get your score up to at least a 0 or -1.
If you lose 3 bets in a row stop and wait till you have 1 or 2 paper wins or you see a good signal to start betting again.
If you lose 2 bets after getting back in it is probably time to quit the shoe and find another one.
Once you reach +5, leave on the next losing bet.
OR count determines mode.
Mode 1, you go OTR (On The Run) after 1 losing bet and stay until you lose.
Mode 2, you go on the run after 2 losing bets and initially stay for 2 bets.
Mode 3, you go on the run after 3 losing bets and stay for 1 bet
EVENTS determine system!
High 1's = S40
But High 1's together with high ST runs and low 2s = S40M1
High 2s = OTB4L - We like to also see high 3s and single 1's with it which we usually do.
Low 2s = S40M1
Low 1s and 2s = TB4L
Strong Side = F3
1's normally occur one every 4 plays on avg.
2s normally occur one every 8 plays on avg.
A + OR count can ONLY occur in high 1's, period.
A - OR count can ONLY occur in low 1's.
So, if you know what 1's and 2s are doing you already know what to play and what mode to play it in. See that?
Not all tables are playable. Just play the obvious ones. The game is not about guts. It's about smarts - and discipline.
That last line was important enough to list twice.
Hey mike which or counts determine which mode?
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I am trying it now.....trying to see if more d will help fid the lowest d
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Bet then you would love little palm island..you must have been in the remote parts of the Bahamas then........I just love south beach in the mornings....it's so alive as the day breaks....
My question might have been worded incorrectly, I meant I track or ot and oott.....am I missing out by not also including a p/b
Also if I can track 5 would it make sense to track 5..... I can do pb , or, ot, oott and oootttt at casino speed always betting opposites on lowest spread. Thanks Glenn and jbird and kdawg as well
Or is it ok to drop pb and just track or, ot, and oott.
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Ellis,
Drove down to south beach with the top down this morning for breakfast while the sun was rising and had a question for you.
If tracking 4d
1. Is p/b a stong d or can you drop it and track say Oott instead?
2. Also if you can at track at casino speed say 5 ds is there any benefit to doing this?
Thank you
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I saw a guy at the rock do this for months winning 1k a day for months one day he lost 25k not once not twice but 3 times haven't seem him since
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Yes you should have said Einstein. True that .
Listen nobody is knocking Ellis here for his accomplishments, nor is anyone ungrateful to him for for helping us out, no one is knocking the BTC forum or it's members.
No one is pissing in anyone's face.
Grow up. No GROW UP!!! Do you understand this? Stop trying to start issues and stir the pot. Seems to me your the only one starting issues. I'm done with this craziness!
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Ruebel
Politics were brought in when you decided it was a good idea to use the old " Ellis as a Pope " analogy.
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Ruebel
Just because it's the Pope that doesn't mean the Pope has wisdom..,the Pope is a man, a religious figurehead.....being chosen as a Pope doesn't mean the man has wisdom. That's like saying Obama is intelligent because he was chosen as president and we all know how the last 8 years have turned out.......one word Obama care.......
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We started that shoe at play 2 how did we know what type of shoe it was going to be or do we always start out playing it as if it was?
Million Dollar Webinar!
in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack
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Sorry but You can not track just 2 columns like p/b and 0/r you need at least 4 biases or at least 8 columns to be tracked to see any biases