Guest NBAProCapper Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 You can view the page at http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/content.php?r=1590-Bankroll-Management-For-Premium-and-Free-plays& Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Dear Fellow Players I am posting here to warn you not to sign up with NBAProCapper or Zach's Private Forum or any other name he goes by. Let me tell you what happened to me when I signed up for his MLB Premium plays. First, let me say that the only reason I signed up in the first place was because of his guarantee. Here is what he promised, copied directly from this forum: 8-04-2010 05:39 PM Mlb final stretch offer (make $4000+) I will be giving my plays for $400.00 for the rest of the mlb season. You are guarrenteed to win $4,000 or you will get a refund of your $400.00 and also get my 2010-2011 NBA Season Plays Free ($1200 Value) I set up an account with a sportsbook for $1200 plus a $250 bonus, a total of $1450. Zach's Premium Picks quickly proceeded to wipe out my entire bankroll in about 3 weeks. I bet exactly as he said including unit size. He obviously haslittle skill as a handicapper.On Sept 14 I sent him this request: Obviously I did not make $4000 - I lost $1200 ($1450 with bonus) and “would have lost more if I continued to follow your picks. Please honor your commitment and return my $400. His response was: 100% end of season you will be refunded I have not forgot no worries So after the WS I again requested a refund. After several request he finally replied: if you would have ridden out the season you would have profited $6k+ I understand you lost the money fairly quickly but i did not know you would not continue on afterwards. I don't think a refund would be really fair as i did honor my guarantee. So this is what you are dealing with – an unscrupulous liar who makes promises he does not keep, not to mention a lousy handicapper. Stay away from his offers like the plague.Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinaldoco Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 thanks for the headsup buddy. I am truly sorry about your loss. that is why I would not believe people that guaranty money back or paid anything more than a few hundred bucks for what they call holy grail systems. some may be honest in their claim but still, I would not charge a bundle for a so call "good system". it is greed for money,pure and simple.if you have a good strategy that works for you,why not let others get on it for a reasonable price since you are all ready making money with your knowledge of the system?he ,whoever Zack is, can not be doing so well if he would not even honor his guaranty!!! people like that make me sick and money is their only motivation to live on this hearth.it really is sad, but I rather be you than him!sincerely,Rinaldo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users Tigerlarry Posted November 20, 2010 Users Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 UP, UP AND AWAYYYYYYYYYY.....thats my money management that is working magic for me at baccarat!Its not new in concept....however, the way i'm using it has changed everything for me! WHY?Simply because it works! Here's what I'm doing....and you can also.....I use "UP as I win and UP as I lose".....however, I do NOT use a straight hard progression! Nope...I use a scale, starting with "one" and proceeding from thereuntil I reach a stop-point. THE SCALE: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10...etc...etc....Now before anyone jumps in and gets their feet wet.....there is one major condition: You must have a selection process that will net you a minimum of 52% win rate!If you can do that, I guarantee you will win! In hockey, I ran a $25 start into $5,125.00 in a 28 game stretch......my win rate was 72%.....I had 20 wins and 8 losses! I have a very good "selection process" in baccarat also. Take care and best to everyone!Larry T. larrycyguy1@embarqmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinaldoco Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 UP, UP AND AWAYYYYYYYYYY.....thats my money management that is working magic for me at baccarat!Its not new in concept....however, the way i'm using it has changed everything for me! WHY?Simply because it works! Here's what I'm doing....and you can also.....I use "UP as I win and UP as I lose".....however, I do NOT use a straight hard progression! Nope...I use a scale, starting with "one" and proceeding from thereuntil I reach a stop-point. THE SCALE: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10...etc...etc....Now before anyone jumps in and gets their feet wet.....there is one major condition: You must have a selection process that will net you a minimum of 52% win rate!If you can do that, I guarantee you will win! In hockey, I ran a $25 start into $5,125.00 in a 28 game stretch......my win rate was 72%.....I had 20 wins and 8 losses! I have a very good "selection process" in baccarat also. Take care and best to everyone!Larry T. larrycyguy1@embarqmail.comhi Guy, just a few questions buddy,how far and how high to you go on your progression before you stop?and your selection process,can you share on it ?like you said,the key is to win at least 52% of your hands so you can sustain the draw down.glad your doing good.Rinaldo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users Tigerlarry Posted November 20, 2010 Users Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 hi Guy, just a few questions buddy,how far and how high to you go on your progression before you stop?and your selection process,can you share on it ?like you said,the key is to win at least 52% of your hands so you can sustain the draw down.glad your doing good.RinaldoHi Rinaldo,Glad you're interested! To answer your questions:How "high" is strictly up to the player......you can go like I did in hockey that time when I ran the 25 bucks up....I went 28 levels......AND, you can stop anytime you're ahead! This money management is so marvelous to work with! I am now 78 years old....and have been at and around the gaming industry most of my life....and how the heck I missed knowing about this MM is beyond me....BUT, I now am using it and am a happy camper!My baccarat process is not magicical.....just solid and productive! If you'll email me, I'll be happy to share it.....I don't go to the online FORUMS much anymore....because there is too much BS and arguing....understand?Trust me on this....I DO NOT SELL SYSTEMS.....I am a player! Take care my new friend....have a great day!Larry:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users wayne3257 Posted November 21, 2010 Users Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) Hi LarryWhat would you say is a good unit to bankroll ratio for your method? i.e. Highest level you have gone to, both winning and losing.Would you also share with me your selection process?Keep up the good work.Wayne Edited November 21, 2010 by wayne3257 clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users mysticshores Posted November 21, 2010 Users Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Hi Larry,My name is Frank, I read your response to Tinaldo, It sounds like you're doing well with the Baccarat program I presume it's the 40 system and I know that money management is an important part of making money.I'm a man of 76 years old and haven't done well up to this time with Baccarat, I will be purchasing the system 40 and hopefully it will help change my luck.Regards,Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users Tigerlarry Posted November 21, 2010 Users Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 HI to everyone who is showing interest in my post about money management. Rather than go any further with this....please allow me to tell eveyone this:HAVING A 52% SELECTION PROCESS IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR THE MM's SUCCESS......I cannot tell you honestly that what I use in Baccarat stays within that 52% ratio at all times....IT DOES NOT! So, rather than for you to try and use the selection process I use.....I strongly urge you to find and or create your own process. Understand? My main business is in sports betting....and I play baccarat mostly for relaxation and to pick up a few xtra bucks! I thank you for your interest.....and I wish all of you the best! Larry:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users ECD Posted November 21, 2010 Users Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Right Larry. Up as you win or lose is not new and is far more aggressive than you need for Baccarat. It would be like playing a time bomb. In Baccarat, your side selection process is about 95% of the battle. The idea is to get THAT right so you don't have to take big risks. Then adhere to good cash mgt principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users ECD Posted November 21, 2010 Users Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Hi Larry,My name is Frank, I read your response to Rinaldo, It sounds like you're doing well with the Baccarat program I presume it's the 40 system and I know that money management is an important part of making money.I'm a man of 76 years old and haven't done well up to this time with Baccarat, I will be purchasing the system 40 and hopefully it will help change my luck.Regards,FrankHmmm, so I won't be the oldest anymore. No worries. The cards don't know or care how old you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audionut Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 My main business is in sports betting....and I play baccarat mostly for relaxation and to pick up a few xtra bucks! I thank you for your interest.....and I wish all of you the best! Larry:-)Hi Larry... I am seriously considering sports betting for a living!! My problem is I live in Columbus, OH, and of course, have no way to LEGALLY bet sports... so I'm thinking about getting an apartment in Las Vegas or something to that effect...Do you have a "guru" that you follow? Or do you handicap yourself? Do you use your 12345..etc progression for your sports bets?I am convinced sports betting is one of the best ways to gamble and make a living... still saving up a nice bankroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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