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Hey everyone,

My first post here, I am more like a seat back player, I only hit the casino once in awhile.

Heard that the NOR system is good, I wonder how are others doing with it.

If I get convinced, I may just purchase it.

In the meantime, I just stick with my strategy of looking at 2s = 2s.

Keep winning

Hi Nap,

Unfortunately most of the NOR private members never look at the public forum. But I'll noitify them that you are here.

Successful trip reports are posted just about daily on the private forum. Some complete with the actual games played.

We have everything from occassional players like yourself to full time professional players all over the world and of all languages.

While there is nothing difficult about NOR (no math involved) I warn you ahead of time it does take a little effort on your part. The manual is about 30 pages and sample games are posted as well but most successful players need to devote a little practice to it.

I might suggest you take a look at an outsiders very full NOR report. Go to ImSpirit and look up Dave and Ellis take on Atlantic City or some such. Sorry, I don't have the link handy but it is easy to find.

Dave, the author, and a professional mathematician, was actually out to prove that Baccarat can not be beat. But he came to our seminar before last in PA and then played 6 shoes along side me in AC. These shoes were on 4 different tables at two different casinos.

The results were a new Baccarat World Record for 6 shoes. My highest bet was a single 4 bet. We played to a 26% Player Advantage which is a world record for 6 shoes by a country mile. Dave, who I had met for the first time the day before at the seminar, recorded every play with dead accuracy. It was by far the most money he had ever won. I was playing book NOR every hand. Such is the power of NOR.

Some of my students have already come very close to breaking that record and I'm sure it is just a question of time. Ha, maybe YOU!

P.S. It should be napoleonpb. Ha, we always put Player first because it is dealt first.

BTW, Player Advantage is money won / total money bet. Card counters shoot for 0.5% P.A. but never make it. We shoot for 20 times that or 10% but often do better.

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Hi Napoleon you're welcome!

NOR is the best available approach to play bac but require some efforts from your part.

Bac is a tough game, NOR drives you to play the shoes at best but you need to make your own part playing with discipline relying to the rules. There's no shortcuts to success, like things of real life! BUUUUT if you'll do your job you'll be SUCCESSFUL!!!!!!

take care

bacclover

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Hello, first time posting here, and just like the previous post by napoleonbp, I am still quite hesitant on purchasing this because $ 600 is a big a deal of money, I have some questions if you don't mind me asking.

1. Will this work in any casino around the world?

2. Personally I haven't been at a Brick and Mortar casino before ever, can you still recommend this?

3. Will this work on online casino?

4. Any kind of warranties for this?

5. And lastly, is this difficult to master or grasp at all?

Thanks and I hope you can attend to my queries ASAP as I would want to give this a try right away.

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Hello, first time posting here, and just like the previous post by napoleonbp, I am still quite hesitant on purchasing this because $ 600 is a big a deal of money, I have some questions if you don't mind me asking.

1. Will this work in any casino around the world?

2. Personally I haven't been at a Brick and Mortar casino before ever, can you still recommend this?

3. Will this work on online casino?

4. Any kind of warranties for this?

5. And lastly, is this difficult to master or grasp at all?

Thanks and I hope you can attend to my queries ASAP as I would want to give this a try right away.

Hi Flash! You might also take a look at Nutzilla's questions this morning here: Re: how would NOR play this shoe

NOR works in any casino, any number of decks, both on commission and no commission tables as well as live on line casinos.

Out of 4000 members we've had one return and yes, we gave him his money back. Ha, but then he decided to stay.

Some students can learn this stuff virtually overnight. But given your lack of casino and system experience plan on several weeks. The important thing is don't play a casino until you are ready. You want to be able to beat your kitchen table before you attempt a casino table or on line. It all depends on the time you can devote to it. They do have free on line casinos good for practice.

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Hi Flash! You might also take a look at Nutzilla's questions this morning here: Re: how would NOR play this shoe

NOR works in any casino, any number of decks, both on commission and no commission tables as well as live on line casinos.

Out of 4000 members we've had one return and yes, we gave him his money back. Ha, but then he decided to stay.

Some students can learn this stuff virtually overnight. But given your lack of casino and system experience plan on several weeks. The important thing is don't play a casino until you are ready. You want to be able to beat your kitchen table before you attempt a casino table or on line. It all depends on the time you can devote to it. They do have free on line casinos good for practice.

okay I think I will give this one a try, what do I get from this membership anyway?

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Hi flash. Just go to the top left and order NOR Professional Baccarat Manual and Support. The manual will be available for download and you will be a mamber of the private forum.

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