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i offer proof of a system that is not NOR or NB or any other system sold on this website

my system will not be published or sold, EVER!!!

so dunno why my thread got deleted but if this one gets deleted guess ill take it elsewhere, I'm sure there are plenty of sites that would welcome a system that still shows a consistent profit over millions of hands

for reference i used 6 decks, shuffling every hand, the reason behind that is online casinos usually shuffle every hand

so once again the result are attached, please leave questions comments and all else

also, i am looking for someone to verify my system, pm me

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Well it is hard to generate a lot of credibility when you start out calling a "tie" a "push" in Baccarat. This tells us you have no casino Baccarat play experience and came from the BJ tables where you likely gave up, right?

Your statistics do not include the most important statistics:

ABS - avg bet size

or PA - Player Advantage: Units won/units bet. We want to see a double digit PA

or highest bet per shoe.

Without those statistics we can make no judgments.

Yet you do include superfluous statistics like the number of Ps, Bs and Ts which tells us you are a beginner with no idea of what is important.

The fact that you title your folders according to base bet size tells us you are betting some kind of progression.

You could be betting a Martingale for all we know or a Fibonaci

If your highest bet size is more than 5 times your base bet, nobody here will be interested.

Let's give you the benefit of doubt and say your ABS is only 2 units. This would give you about a 1.5% PA avg. before commission. You would need to move the decimal point to 11.5% to generate any interest. And I suspect your ABS is far higher than 2!

You do not say where your test shoes came from.

We would be interested only in real casino shoes, not RG shoes.

The reason your post was deleted was we see posts such as yours all over the internet all the time but none of these systems have ever withstood even the slightest scrutiny.

Include the above statistics for 1000 shoes in actual casino play and somebody might get interested if your PA is high enough and your highest bet low enough. Of course somebody would need to observe and verify your play as we do here.

We offer free systems on this website that DO meet the above criteria. I sincerely doubt yours does.

You might try your wares on a less advanced forum. I would suggest BaccaratForums. They might be interested. We aren't.

OR, you might join this forum and learn how to play Baccarat and/or BJ for real.

Stop wasting your time. We only get so much!

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i offer proof of a system that is not NOR or NB or any other system sold on this website

my system will not be published or sold, EVER!!!

so dunno why my thread got deleted but if this one gets deleted guess ill take it elsewhere, I'm sure there are plenty of sites that would welcome a system that still shows a consistent profit over millions of hands

for reference i used 6 decks, shuffling every hand, the reason behind that is online casinos usually shuffle every hand

so once again the result are attached, please leave questions comments and all else

also, i am looking for someone to verify my system, pm me

Brando,

Well, that would be me who deleted your first post.

The overall theme of the message was suspect right from the start, but I can overlook that. We do get a lot of posts very similar to yours so that would be why yours was removed almost immediately.

Yes, that ARE plenty of sites that would welcome your "system" that shows a consistent profit over millions of hands. To tell you the truth, that's where it really belongs. I can give you a few of them if you would like to post there.

I did look at the "results" and data like that was useful, back in 1972 when TRS-80's were all the rage. I know, I had one and generated "data" just like you've posted!

There are plenty of real baccarat players here who would probably "verify" your system if anything about it was mentioned in your post or your file!

So, seeing as how the boss has replied to your message, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt and let the message stand until a good reason to remove it shows up!

Welcome aboard. There's a lot of good information and a lot of winning players here, but they work at it.

Plan accordingly.

MVS

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for reference i used 6 decks, shuffling every hand, the reason behind that is online casinos usually shuffle every hand

Brando,

I don't believe I've ever seen an online casino shuffle every hand!

You might want to recheck your source for that information.

Yes, we have many "online" baccarat players here.

MVS (I'm one of them!)

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delete it, no point in fighting over it.

i am currently +$5000 in bovada casino over a month of real play with this system

this thread is merely a proof of concept, and if it cannot be seen as that, then there is no point in having it here

the reason for computer generated shoes and not real shoes, is because my system was not designed for brick and mortar play

i find brick and mortar a plain waste of time, so i designed my system for the alternative, an online casino

the reason my results don't include average bet per shoe and stuff like that is just me being lazy, the actual simulator tracks all that and just doesn't output it

also its kinda hard to have an average bet per shoe considering it shuffles every hand

i do suggest adapting to online play, i'm sure there are many people like me who prefer online play rather than brick and mortar

NOR won't work on anything that shuffles often as it relies on tracking previous hands, therefore making it a "half-working" system

anyway i have said what i wanted to say, so feel free to delete this, there's no point in keeping it around

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Brando,

I don't believe I've ever seen an online casino shuffle every hand!

You might want to recheck your source for that information.

Yes, we have many "online" baccarat players here.

MVS (I'm one of them!)

hmm... well i think you might have got me there...

Bovada Baccarat Link

the main part of that being:

How to Play:

The game is played using six decks, which are reshuffled after each hand.

You can bet on the Player, the Banker, a Tie or a combination of all three.

The Player plays first.

If the total of the Player's hand is between zero and 5, draw another card.

If the total of the Banker's hand is 7, 8 or 9, a new card is not drawn. If the total is zero, 1 or 2, the Banker draws another card. If the hand total is between 3 and 6, the Banker draws a card as follows:

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Brando,

It would appear that BigVic figured it out before I returned.

It would appear that you're playing RNG baccarat at Bovada. I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, it looks like this thread can remain as it's a great teaching lesson for others who may come by and browse the forums.

Good luck to you in your future baccarat play.

MVS

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