Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted April 3, 2013 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 So, yesterday my wife is looking for a "special" beer to take to her next book club, which will be to discuss the book GONE GIRL ( based loosely on a bar in Iowa)I " google" IOWA Beers, and I come up with Double Bastard...Immediately gets me to thinking about how we generally play/comment/critique shoes posted by members AFTER THE FACT ( once they have been played), but this is kinda like blaming the referee of a sports contest for a " bad call" after you have seen it 5 times on InstantReplay..nobody can convince me they can look at this whole shoe transcription, and NOT be biased!Such As...HOW WOULD YOU PLAY THIS SHOE?P1122333122P623411111B533351P11122211141 ( end of shoe)Nothing Wrong with saying " how I would do this/ what I would have done, etc", and we need to continue to do this/interact over actual shoes...BUT, what if we could ( anyone wants to dial in) play shoes in " real time" mode, one hand at a time, just like they get played in your local gambling establishmentMaybe we have a monthly GoToMeeting conference call set up where NOR members interested could dial in and see/hear how our resident experts Ellis/Steve would play hands one at a time, just like we do in the casino? Sure, everyone wants to go to VEGAS, but we have many players from all over the world, or here in the USA just cannot make it...Incorporate the latest NOR+ " tweaks" and able to answer member questions in " real time" for all to hear?Use real shoes played in real casinos from around-the-world?Get interaction from Singapore, Canda, Italy, etc. on the same conference call?Likely, the BTC membership sales would go through the roof!!!Anyone besides me interested in this?During such a session, we don't comment on shoes being a " bastard" at all, they are just real live, real world playing conditions...Not some " bastard" shoe we just have to throw in the towel on...Still ,use stop losses, still use betting progressions, still use exit points, but we play it just like we all face in the real casino environment...( and if it matters to you, Keith has promised to wear a CocktailWaitress "dress up" outfit for the first session...just to make it REALLY, REALLY like the casino!..In future sessions, he will dress up/act like the PIT BOSS, or the DRUNK standing behind you at the table calling out " Player!!... Now Banker!" while you decide on your bet...)Anyone think they would benefit from this? Willing to pay a modest fee for the time/ trouble it would take to set up the calls?Just thinking..we want to be THE BEATTHECASINO forum, we could improve and membership sales would fall right in step... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm A Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 So, yesterday my wife is looking for a "special" beer to take to her next book club, which will be to discuss the book GONE GIRL ( based loosely on a bar in Iowa)I " google" IOWA Beers, and I come up with Double Bastard...Immediately gets me to thinking about how we generally play/comment/critique shoes posted by members AFTER THE FACT ( once they have been played), but this is kinda like blaming the referee fof a sports contest for a " bad call" after you have seen it 5 times on InstantReplay..nobody an convince me they can look at this and NOT be biased!P1122333122P623411111B533351P11122211141 ( end of shoe)Nothing Wrong with saying " how I would do this/ what I would have done, etc....BUT, what if we could ( anyone wants to dial in) play shoes in " real time" mode, one hand at a time, just like they get played in your local gambling establishmentMaybe we have a monthly GoToMeeting conference call set up where NOR members interested could dial in and see/hear how our resident experts Ellis/Steve would play hands one at a time, just like we do in the casino?Incorporate the latest NOR+ " tweaks" and able to answer member questions in " real time" for all to hear?Use real shoes played in real casinos from around-the-world?Likely, the BTC membership sales would go through the roof!!!Anyone besides me interested in this?That way, we don't comment on shoes being a " bastard" at all, they are just real live, real world playing conditions...Not some " bastard" shoe we just have to throw in the towel on...Still use stop losses, still use betting progressions, still use exit points, but we play it just like we all face in the real casino environment...( and if it matters to you, Keith has promised to wear his CocktailWaitress get up for the first session...)Hi katchatz1I agree with you 1000% , anyone could win a shoe playing it after the fact. Even if you cover up the next hand as you play the shoe at the kitchen table you are still influenced by seeing the shoe after the fact, and are tempted to peek at the next hand before you make a bet.PJ and I have done this a few times over the phone and it has proven to make a big difference in the outcome.There was one time he asked me to pick a shoe from my collection of shoes from my casino play. What I did was to use a shoe that he posted, I don't remember the scores bet he did very good on the shoe he posted. But when he played it over the phone one hand at a time he lost the shoe in a bad way. I think he is still pissed of at me for doing that. It just proves the point that you can't play a shoe after the fact.I think what you are proposing is a good idea, but I don't think it is doable for many reasons, one being that members are from all over the world and in different time zones.The other being that it is very time consuming, It would be hard to get even one other player to participate as most members have family and other things to attend to, to get together at the same time would difficult at best.BTW are you going to be in Vegas for the seminar ?NormA Quote Norm A FOLLOW THE SHOE WHEN IN DOUBT WAIT IT OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm A Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 So, yesterday my wife is looking for a "special" beer to take to her next book club, which will be to discuss the book GONE GIRL ( based loosely on a bar in Iowa)I " google" IOWA Beers, and I come up with Double Bastard...Immediately gets me to thinking about how we generally play/comment/critique shoes posted by members AFTER THE FACT ( once they have been played), but this is kinda like blaming the referee of a sports contest for a " bad call" after you have seen it 5 times on InstantReplay..nobody can convince me they can look at this whole shoe transcription, and NOT be biased!Such As...HOW WOULD YOU PLAY THIS SHOE?P1122333122P623411111B533351P11122211141 ( end of shoe)Nothing Wrong with saying " how I would do this/ what I would have done, etc", and we need to continue to do this/interact over actual shoes...BUT, what if we could ( anyone wants to dial in) play shoes in " real time" mode, one hand at a time, just like they get played in your local gambling establishmentMaybe we have a monthly GoToMeeting conference call set up where NOR members interested could dial in and see/hear how our resident experts Ellis/Steve would play hands one at a time, just like we do in the casino? Sure, everyone wants to go to VEGAS, but we have many players from all over the world, or here in the USA just cannot make it...Incorporate the latest NOR+ " tweaks" and able to answer member questions in " real time" for all to hear?Use real shoes played in real casinos from around-the-world?Get interaction from Singapore, Canda, Italy, etc. on the same conference call?Likely, the BTC membership sales would go through the roof!!!Anyone besides me interested in this?During such a session, we don't comment on shoes being a " bastard" at all, they are just real live, real world playing conditions...Not some " bastard" shoe we just have to throw in the towel on...Still ,use stop losses, still use betting progressions, still use exit points, but we play it just like we all face in the real casino environment...( and if it matters to you, Keith has promised to wear a CocktailWaitress "dress up" outfit for the first session...just to make it REALLY, REALLY like the casino!..In future sessions, he will dress up/act like the PIT BOSS, or the DRUNK standing behind you at the table calling out " Player!!... Now Banker!" while you decide on your bet...)Anyone think they would benefit from this? Willing to pay a modest fee for the time/ trouble it would take to set up the calls?Just thinking..we want to be THE BEATTHECASINO forum, we could improve and membership sales would fall right in step...Talking about beer, ponder this one:Beer Logic DIALOGUE BETWEEN A LADY INTERVIEWER WITH A MALE BEER DRINKER:Lady Interviewer: Do you drink every day?Man: Yes.Lady Interviewer: How much a day?Man: Around 3 six-packs starting at noon.Lady Interviewer: How much does a 6-pack cost?Man: Roughly $10.00 at a deli.Lady Interviewer: And how long have you been drinking like that?Man: 15 years.Lady Interviewer: So with a six-pack costing $10.00, and you consuming 3six-packs a day, you are spending roughly $900 each month. In one year, youwould then be spending $10,800, correct?Man: Correct.Lady Interviewer: If in 1 year you spend $10,800 on beer, not accountingfor inflation, 15 years puts your spending roughly $162,000; correct?Man: Correct.Lady Interviewer: Did it ever occur to you that if you did not drink forthe last 15 years, you could have bought a Ferrari?Man: Do you drink?Lady Interviewer: No.Man: So where's your freakin' Ferrari? Quote Norm A FOLLOW THE SHOE WHEN IN DOUBT WAIT IT OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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