Final Questions

[Chili]

After reading through quite a few threads I am about 80% sure I will get the NOR Manual but was wondering if I could get some answers specific to my situation.

The games where I play, Sydney Australia, are dealt from a manual shoe out of a 8 deck shuffling machine, one set shuffling while the other is in play. They are cut by the dealer before they are put into the shoe. Occasionally they are shuffled by hand when the machine is on the fritz. The reason I ask from what I read how the cards are shuffled makes a difference or have I read to much into it.

The game is also played as Even Money Baccarat that is where all payouts are payed at even money except winning bank totals of six which is paid 1-2.

I think overall what I want to know is can the strategies beat any kind of game conditions.

Thank-you

Chili.

[bigcash2002]

good question. Yes, NOR BAC beats the situation you described. IMO, it beats any situation, some our more difficult than others. Once you get the idea of how to spot a consistent shoe bias by tote boards and a proper OR count, you can select the proper play for that shoe and beat it.

[Chili]

Thanks for the reply.

I have taken the plunge and purchased the manual. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Was probably always at 100% just needed a little more confirmation.

I will admit I'm still a little skeptical, I do believe that you can consistently make money from the casino, no matter what the mathematicians say, but I know that it will take work and a good strategy hopefully this is it.

[PeterUK]

Hi Chill,

Welcome to the club... Be patient and take your time...

There may be some broken links in the forum but Keith is currently trying I fix things up...

Feel free to ask questions and the experienced members will hopefully reply...

All the best,

Peter

[Guest]

After reading through quite a few threads I am about 80% sure I will get the NOR Manual but was wondering

if I could get some answers specific to my situation.

While we pay less attention than we should to the public forum where you posted, you can already see that you can talk freely

publicly or privately to any or all of the members and ask or say anything you want. Posts are not screened. We would not allow

this if we had any reservations whatsoever. All put together, we have tried every site on the internet and all here will tell you

BTC, with 30 years experience, is the best site on the internet by a country mile. No one is ever sorry they joined and most

make their tuition back their first trip - some their first shoe. This is the happiest and most polite forum on the internet with never

a harsh word spoken. We are all in this together. BTW, you will meet other Aussies here.

The games where I play, Sydney Australia, are dealt from a manual shoe out of a 8 deck shuffling machine, one set shuffling while the other is in play. They are cut by the dealer before they are put into the shoe. Occasionally they are shuffled by hand when the machine is on the fritz. The reason I ask from what I read how the cards are shuffled makes a difference or have I read to much into it.

You have not. "Regular" cards like Sydney is somewhat preferred to "preshuffled" cards like Vegas. - More consistency.

The game is also played as Even Money Baccarat that is where all payouts are payed at even money except winning bank totals of six which is paid 1-2.

We call that "no commission Baccarat" which, of course, is somewhat of a misnomer. Many of us prefer it because it makes

the game go faster.

I think overall what I want to know is can the strategies beat any kind of game conditions.

Thank-you

Pretty much so, yes. You will have losing shoes but our cash mgt limits them to about -5 or 6 while your winning shoes in your

conditions will avg considerably more than that. So the object becomes to win half or more. Other Aussies are in the 70-80%

range. That number will climb as you gain experience.

We are usually the lowest bettors at the table but the biggest winners - very often, the only winners.