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Hi this is my first post ever in this forum. Hi everyone!

A little info about me: After 2 weeks of joining and investing in the NOR manual, I was able to earn my investment and a little more with only 4 casino visits. The first casino visit I just paper gambled to see how I did. I had a lot of fear and anxiety until I started to see the biases. So that brings me to learn 4D.

I studied the lingo and did multiple searches in this forum to understand. I made many mistakes yesterday when using 4D counting at the casino. I wasn't able to keep up, I made mistakes on the count and it was the first time I exited a casino a loser. Then today I was able to keep up and I doubled my bank roll because I tracked the shoe biases and saw a lot of counts being "in Jail". I see it very clearly with the 4D count! Now I am confident with table selecting and using NOR with 4D counting!

Thanks Ellis!

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Hi this is my first post ever in this forum. Hi everyone!

A little info about me: After 2 weeks of joining and investing in the NOR manual, I was able to earn my investment and a little more with only 4 casino visits. The first casino visit I just paper gambled to see how I did. I had a lot of fear and anxiety until I started to see the biases. So that brings me to learn 4D.

I studied the lingo and did multiple searches in this forum to understand. I made many mistakes yesterday when using 4D counting at the casino. I wasn't able to keep up, I made mistakes on the count and it was the first time I exited a casino a loser. Then today I was able to keep up and I doubled my bank roll because I tracked the shoe biases and saw a lot of counts being "in Jail". I see it very clearly with the 4D count! Now I am confident with table selecting and using NOR with 4D counting!

Thanks Ellis!

Hi Jdean

Congratulations on your excellent playing, and your success at winning your investment back,

you are without a doubt one of the fastest learners that there ever was on this forum.

Keep up the good work.

BTW, where are you from and what casino do you play at?

Norm A

FOLLOW THE SHOE

WHEN IN DOUBT WAIT IT OUT

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Thanks Norm! I live in the bay area of California and I played at an Asian Casino called The Matrix. (btw for every bet you pay $1 for every minimum bet-$100) I want to try checking out the Indian Casinos here sometime this week (Cache Creek or Red Hawk these casinos don't take a $1 collection but are farther away). I don't stay for the whole shoe because I feel physically and mentally drained from seeing the change of biases (Thanks to 4d!). I believe at the Matrix casino, they used pre-shuffled decks because i saw them place the whole used shoe in an elevator for cards. Once that slides down another shoe rises next to it. One of the most important skills I learn here was knowing when to walk away.

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Yeah, on the practice tee with no one watching, you get to where you can hit those 300 yard drives right down the middle and even control fade and draw. But then on the First tee 15 minutes later, with the whole club house watching, you try to duplicate your swing perfectly and miss the ball altogether. Shit happens!

I find Golf and Baccarat very similar endeavors. The more you practice and the more you play, the better you get. It is not about how hard you swing or how much you bet. It is about ending up on the right side of the fairway - or the table.

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I see what you're saying. I stuck to NOR just for the simplicity. With 4D I am having difficulty with the speed of the dealers but I am becoming faster at the count.. Here are some shoes I paper played with at one of my practice visits. I tagged the shoes ABCDEF. I exited the casino with -3 units that night. Then I came back a few days later hit and running the tables and exited with +10 units.

A-shoe

B11221154111

P2621111114

P21113111221

B-shoe

P22212128

P112131111422

B2161124

C-shoe

P12136112111

P111511624

B532121

D-shoe

P21421253

P111112121324

B25721231111

E-shoe

P22111132421

B112112112116

B5231422

F-shoe

B10,1112113

B2222321321

P522243

These are Land Based shoes from Matrix Casino. . I posted these shoes as a good practice to share.

This was a couple days before New Years. (Side Note F-shoe Started with Banker 10 streak.)

I got anxious from all the note taking so I played with just a few units and lost. nothing like coming back well rested and hitting and running the tables to win some back.

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I see what you're saying. I stuck to NOR just for the simplicity. With 4D I am having difficulty with the speed of the dealers but I am becoming faster at the count.. Here are some shoes I paper played with at one of my practice visits. I tagged the shoes ABCDEF. I exited the casino with -3 units that night. Then I came back a few days later hit and running the tables and exited with +10 units.

A-shoe

B11221154111

P2621111114

P21113111221

B-shoe

P22212128

P112131111422

B2161124

C-shoe

P12136112111

P111511624

B532121

D-shoe

P21421253

P111112121324

B25721231111

E-shoe

P22111132421

B112112112116

B5231422

F-shoe

B10,1112113

B2222321321

P522243

These are Land Based shoes from Matrix Casino. . I posted these shoes as a good practice to share.

This was a couple days before New Years. (Side Note F-shoe Started with Banker 10 streak.)

Hi Jdean

Do you think it would be possible for you to put these shoes on a scorecard and post the scorecards to show us how you played them.

This would be very helpful for some members to see how they were played and learn by then.

It does not matter if they were a winning or a losing shoe.

Thanks

Norm A

FOLLOW THE SHOE

WHEN IN DOUBT WAIT IT OUT

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post-6738-14500262092895_thumb.jpgI scanned all of them but I only paper played shoes D E and F.. I lost units on shoe F and paper played the rest of it. here's those 3 shoes I paper played. Sorry for the blotches of ink. My pen was leaking. I still hadn't learn how to net bet. I believe I can after a few more paper practices.

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Wow Jdean! Joined in Dec and already attempting the 4D. Very impressive! Can you tell us a little more about Matrix casino? I seem to remember one of the members mentioning it before.

How are you doing on your net betting now?

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I am getting the hang of net betting! I was confused at first. Just came back from the Matrix Casino (A casino in San Jose California where it holds only card tables and no slot machines or craps and roulette.) I successfully done some net betting in addition to 4D. I simply net bet PB when I saw there is no run on any counts. It was a rough start though, but I did manage to come out +4 units! (did I mention you have to pay $1 for every bet up to $100? That's what this casino does as a collection.)

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