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I have a Player Banker Variance question. We all know that Banker wins out number player wins but I want to know how far out of balance toward player can a sample get before the draw advantage take over.

Do you think it is possible to have a sample that would go +50 player (with flat bets) without Banker ever being ahead or even at any point?

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I have a Player Banker Variance question. We all know that Banker wins out number player wins but I want to know how far out of balance toward player can a sample get before the draw advantage take over.

Do you think it is possible to have a sample that would go +50 player (with flat bets) without Banker ever being ahead or even at any point?

Evo,

The "draw advantage" of 50.68% for Banker vs 49.32% for Player is derived over thousands of hands - not per shoe. If it was per shoe, it'd be a no-brainer to just bet Banker, right?

Personally, I've seen just about an equal amount of Player dominant as Banker dominant shoes. Okay, maybe Banker dominant wins slightly more shoes but still....

As for out of balance towards Player, the most I've ever seen was a spread of 12 during a shoe and, at most, a 75% Player / 25% Banker finish at the end of the shoe. But these are extremely rare cases IMO.

Regards,

Glenn

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Dr. EVO

Quiz is correct.

Rare, really rare but you play enough shoes you " might" see a 50+ PLAYER shoe, or you " might" see a 50+ BANKER shoe ( 8 decks) once in a long time of playing...

I have been physically present to play one of each, but that is in almost 20 years of play, playing hundreds of bricks-and-mortar shoes per year..Many 1000's of shoes over that time...

The PLAYER shoe was about 15 years ago, played at The Silver Legacy Casino in Reno, Nevada.

The BANKER shoe was more recent, about 3 years ago at The Isle Casino in Biloxi, Mississippi (recently bought out/refurbished under The Golden Nugget brand ownership...)

Perhaps you would see more like this on line? Or perhaps Ellis could tell you the probability? Or you can always ask Shackleford...

One other factor...used to be, most Casino's carefully "cut" 14-21 cards off the back of the 8 decks, and placed the " end of shoe" red/yellow " last hand" card accordingly.

---------now, I often see a whole deck (52 cards+\-) cut off the end of the shoe, irrespective of where the player places the " cut-card" , likely something to do with making sure there is no card -counting ( or whatever) advantage given to Advantage Players....

The fewer the number of hands played, the less likely you might ever see a 50+ P/B advantage shoe.

EVER.

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