mbpfws Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'm playing shoes with confirmed chop condition (OR count moving toward positive 4) then I lost 2 in a rows with make 3s in player. So according mode 2, I will bet OTR which bet 4s in player, unfortunately, it make 1 in banker (which is opposite). Then according to mode rule again. Bet oposit of what won. But, I'm bad luck Brian. Now it makes 3s and 2s. Then I continue, s40, which bet opposite. But Sh!t happens, now it makes 3p-3b is what I call 6 lost in a row. And know what, with last effor of making 4b. the result now 3p-3b-1p with the total defeat of me. What should I do with this kind of shoes usually happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topstep1 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'm playing shoes with confirmed chop condition (OR count moving toward positive 4) then I lost 2 in a rows with make 3s in player. So according mode 2, I will bet OTR which bet 4s in player, unfortunately, it make 1 in banker (which is opposite). Then according to mode rule again. Bet oposit of what won. But, I'm bad luck Brian. Now it makes 3s and 2s. Then I continue, s40, which bet opposite. But Sh!t happens, now it makes 3p-3b is what I call 6 lost in a row. And know what, with last effor of making 4b. the result now 3p-3b-1p with the total defeat of me. What should I do with this kind of shoes usually happen.First of all keep practicing , What happened to betting zero( virtual bet) when you lose 2 in a row or 3 in a row and bet zero till you win 1 or 2 out of 3 to get back in the game, then continue to bet. post the shoe lets see what it looks like ? Are you starting off with OTB4L ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbpfws Posted April 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 First of all keep practicing , What happened to betting zero( virtual bet) when you lose 2 in a row or 3 in a row and bet zero till you win 1 or 2 out of 3 to get back in the game, then continue to bet. post the shoe lets see what it looks like ? Are you starting off with OTB4L ?I start of with s40 chop, betting opposite of every hand. I did'nt virtual bet when loosing, that's why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topstep1 Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 I start of with s40 chop, betting opposite of every hand. I did'nt virtual bet when loosing, that's whyYou ask us How do you beat this kind of shoe ? And I'm tell you , You have to adjust to the shoe , the shoe doesn't adjust to you ! Every shoe has a SWEET SPOT , and you have to be patience and discipline enough to wait for it to happen , the reason I say bet zeros' is because its better you losing nothing than being down 10 units when the SWEET SPOT COMES , It has nothing to do with you having bad luck , Its you adjusting to the game. When I start off playing I wait at least 10hands or so, that gives you time to decide what to use as the shoe starts to build some history then you go in as to whatto use OTB4L , TB4L , or s40 depending on the O/R COUNT , this is not all MECHANICAL you have to use some DISCRETION . FLOW WITH THE SHOE THE SHOE DOESN'T FLOW WITH YOU Treat this ,what you are learning as an APPROACH ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfgirl007 Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Hi, Im new to NOR. Can you please tell me in what kind of shoe do we use the TB4L system and in what mode? My maual only refers to OTB4L and NOT TB4L. Much thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users bluetri Posted April 12, 2014 Users Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 That is because TB4L is not a NOR system. The three systems you should concentrate on are in your manual. Anything else, like 4D, NOR+ ,etc. will only serve to confuse you. Get the basics down FIRST. But, to answer your question, TB4L is a streak system which repeats the win two plays back. (It's culprit is 2iars, loses to 2 in a rows) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topstep1 Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'm playing shoes with confirmed chop condition (OR count moving toward positive 4) then I lost 2 in a rows with make 3s in player. So according mode 2, I will bet OTR which bet 4s in player, unfortunately, it make 1 in banker (which is opposite). Then according to mode rule again. Bet oposit of what won. But, I'm bad luck Brian. Now it makes 3s and 2s. Then I continue, s40, which bet opposite. But Sh!t happens, now it makes 3p-3b is what I call 6 lost in a row. And know what, with last effor of making 4b. the result now 3p-3b-1p with the total defeat of me. What should I do with this kind of shoes usually happen.This is what I should've did from the get ..... You guys need to read read read and run about 50 shoes in practice , you will get it then ! “Good luck is a residue of preparation.” http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ztomsk Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 I think the problem was using Mode 2. If it's confirmed chop.... then using the secondary prog (assuming you are playing the +5 system) would have you in Mode 3 which gets a chip back beating all 3's. It still isn't a great situation having back to back 3's like that in a chop system. Depending on how the shoe was after those 3's, I may or may not have switched to OTB4L or S40M1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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