Keith Smith Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Here are some clips and conversation from the Vdara Play Session with a few of our membersI hope you enjoy this. Don't forget the Crawl is August 9th we only have a few spots left due to the size of he LimoregardsKeith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted July 3, 2014 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Here are some clips and conversation from the Vdara Play Session with a few of our membersI hope you enjoy this. Don't forget the Crawl is August 9th we only have a few spots left due to the size of he LimoregardsKeith Great Video/conversation.Really enjoyed it!Now, just sit down and replay all the ACTUAL PLAYS you were talking about from the shoes during your Vdara seminar...using the Net Betting rules Dr.E.. posted back in 2010 and I recently re-posted for all to see Start when you started, stop when you stopped.Just play as follows:Bank U1D1M1Player U1D1M1" NetBet" the diff, exactly, and I mean exactly as per ECD Net Betting rulesNOW, COMPARE TO YOUR MDB SEMINAR RESULTS, and draw your own conclusions....Perhaps it's MDB2.0...Higher risk? YES.Higher Reward? Emphatic YES!!!!Player Advantage % ? ( likely you already know the answer...it will go down, but likely offset by higher reward...)Could this help improve the outcome of your Surgical Strike 8/09 event? That is for your MDB team to decide...I understand you would like to achieve a 100% shoe win rate, even if but for a few units...But ( and this is a big but), Vegas is not reality for most people...most play with a few tables, most play with one or only two casinos in their area...Towards the end of the video, Keith made a good point...it takes a bankroll to play the game of baccarat...otherwise, why would you " pool" your $$, choose who will play/ make decisions for the MDB team, etc?So, pooling ( your $$) , tooling ( around in a limo) will likely leave you drooling ( for more) on the 9th.Throw in The Twist, and , well, likely they'll be no fooling ( anyone) that you'll be cooling ( your heels) come Sunday am...And planning the next event!!YES, DO play the new cards, " surgical strike" method. That's why you have the limo!Just do consider at least "parallel recording" what NET Betting and THE Twist would result in for the exact same plays compared with SURGICAL MDB...there is a way to create the best possible MDB methodology, but the way to do it is to combine the best play selection with the best money management system possible...We've all learned so much to just throw out everything and totally start over...Just IMHO, and Ellis is driving the bus...whatever he says, end of the day, the state governs all school-bus operators....even in Nevada...And remember, the reason you are playing as a team is to act like one..Coach calls the plays, QB communicates and executes same, Offensive and Defensive co-ordinatiors jobs are on the line to " adjust" for playing conditions, keep team focused, etc...Maybe the above will help you realize the full-potential of MDB, maybe not...but I think you will comprehend just a little bit more MDB true ptotential if you " back test" the results from your MDB VDARA play...And adjust if, and only if, you deem appropriate. It's your team, and 30 days should be ample time to write the rule book....Hey, you can't win 'em all...but you can consistently win most of themGood luck to all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Haha net betting u1d1m1 playing both sides of the shoe from the beginning of the shoe. Playing with a bankroll as large as the casino's. Stopping at +2 per shoe. To the guy in the gray shirt "What do you do after you reach your +2?" i. e. Wait for another shoe or go to another table. Or not play on Saturday nights where there is no space to play.If you went to -5 to +2 that's a spread of +7 I would definitely call it quits. Equals All Winners!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here are some clips and conversation from the Vdara Play Session with a few of our membersI hope you enjoy this. Don't forget the Crawl is August 9th we only have a few spots left due to the size of he LimoregardsKeith Is any member remotely close to achieving 1 million profit?How about 100k >? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Hamster, we are just now getting the rules solid for everyone. But our player Norm got up to about $600,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Haha net betting u1d1m1 playing both sides of the shoe from the beginning of the shoe. Playing with a bankroll as large as the casino's. Stopping at +2 per shoe. To the guy in the gray shirt "What do you do after you reach your +2?" i. e. Wait for another shoe or go to another table. Or not play on Saturday nights where there is no space to play.If you went to -5 to +2 that's a spread of +7 I would definitely call it quits. Equals All Winners!!!Kevin, Brendan, You would have far greater worries than that.First off, no one in their right mind would net bet u1d1m1. You get killed on a 7 iar ! You hit -19 and finish at -12 on the next play. To make 2 units? You gotta be kidding me.At least you would bet u1d1m2. That way you come out 3 units better on a 7.But the best way would be u1d1m2 2Hi. (Your highest entry is 3.That way you make +5 on a 7iar and your highest bet ever is 2.Then, play to +5 like we do with 5 of a kind. There is no good reason to quit at +2. But you need to start at the beginning of the shoe. There is no reason not to when net betting. You don't want to start where we start with 5 of a kind. We might not bet until play 20.We only bet about 10 - 12 times avg per shoe but they are all high advantage bets.Net betting, every bet is 50/50. You'll go up and down but chances are you'll hit +5 at some point - hopefully.You will be betting about 6 times to every bet we make. And our PA will be about 6 times what yours is.Net betting can be very tricky and very dangerous if you don't know exactly what you are doing and why.But I'll give you this much: Net betting WILL do better in new preshuffled touch games than it does in regular cards. Net betting LIKES random cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVic Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Hamster, we are just now getting the rules solid for everyone. But our player Norm got up to about $600,000.Norm died long before your MDB, even if he played in a similar manner, pretty classless to promote MDB with someone who's dead. That's just creepy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Is there a point in card tracking/counting? or am I wasting my time. Like tracking all the naturals. or say we already know 75% of the deck through process of elimination we guesstimate which side will be higher based on the order in which they came out ie player card, banker card, player card, banker card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Is there a point in card tracking/counting? or am I wasting my time. Like tracking all the naturals. or say we already know 75% of the deck through process of elimination we guesstimate which side will be higher based on the order in which they came out ie player card, banker card, player card, banker card.This is Baccarat, NOT Blackjack. BJ methods DON'T work in Bac. Every card counting/tracking variation conceivable has been tried over the last 30 years. Several books were written. None created any B/P prediction ability in the slightest. It is all wishful thinking!The ONLY thing that works is BIAS and lack of bias both created by the card prep and shuffle vs the starting order of the cards. Casinos laugh at Baccarat card trackers. They even track naturals on the tote board for you as well as B vs P and then laugh at the idiots who try to make any sense of them. If this information actually helped you do you think the casinos would give it to you? Card tracking in Baccarat is a good way to get comped!So the player asks: "How much did Player win by?" And the pit boss replies: "Do you have a room for tonight?"But event tracking is a whole different story. Those guys scare pit bosses!Regular cards event counts tend to spread further and further apart. The highest vs the lowest event counts are extremely useful in predicting future events. That is the whole purpose and basis of SAP. Casinos know this.That is why they went to the expense of factory preshuffled cards purchased in specific casino favorable card orders.Preshuffled cards favor random - even what we call in BJ "Super Random". Casinos do this because Mathematicians worldwide told them "Random numbers cannot be beat" But Mathematicians make the WORST BJ players, the WORST Bac players and the WORST Poker players BECAUSE they have no conception of shuffle technology or Poker reads - "tells".The FACT is that in BJ, super random cards (cards where the high /low count keeps crossing ZERO) are the EASIEST cards to beat by a country mile. The very same cards that are a card counters nightmare. That is why BJ card counters quit the very best tables in search of the very worst tables. Idiots! The fact is that BJ Basic Strategy is BASED on RANDOM cards. So random is the last thing the casino wants.Card Counters - Idiots taught by SCAMMERS - the losingest players in the casino. They spent years learning the best way to LOSE! And Hollywood keeps making movies about these idiots. We have idiots making movies about idiots in a pretend world! Ha, a triple whammy! You lose!But in the REAL world, like in the Don Johnson world, who doesn't count cards BTW, RANDOM WINS! Random prevails. And the casinos know this full well. That is why in BJ the casinos use shuffles and shuffle machines that induce greater clumping. Higher counts.And card counters fall for this ploy in droves.The exact opposite happens in Baccarat. The casinos couldn't get the cards random enough with their machines so they went to factory preshuffled cards - SUPER RANDOM CARD ORDERS. Eliminate all biases.But random is a bias in itself. Event counts (SAP) tend to even out rather than fly apart. That makes events predictable. Artificially predictable. Understand?We could use SAP in reverse.ORWe can bet that the casino cannot produce 5 of a kind because the cards are purposely TOO random to produce 5 of a Kind. Get it?MDB demonstrated full well that the casinos cannot even produce 4 of a kind. That is why MDB+ is based on the FACT that the more random the cards are the less likely they are to produce 5 of a kind W/O a winning event in between.Will it ALWAYS win? No. But this game is NOT about ALWAYS. This game is about "USUALLY"!Most players think casinos are their friend. Ha, watch my lips: Casinos are professional deviates. They thrive on fixing games in their favor. Then they laugh at us. Watch my lips: "These guys are NOT your friends." They are out to beat you. But, let's get the last laugh! In this world I'm the only friend you've got. I KNOW that because I've been in this world for 30 years. I beat the bastards! Now I'm trying to teach you how. Nobody ever said it was easy. It is hard work and study. But ANYBODY who really wants to can do it. ANYBODY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hamster, we are just now getting the rules solid for everyone. But our player Norm got up to about $600,000.Impressive! Good luck.I think you should have a ceremony if someone makes it to 1 million.Maybe offer a trip to Thailand at a fancy resort?Question: Who are these people in the videos?I recognize Keith ...I found watching this video that you are still trying to get everyone in 100% alignment.In the heat of the moment, it is easy to get rattled.Great video...please post more about the million dollar baccarat challenge.Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 I would try Macau before Thailand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users BJplayer Posted July 19, 2014 Users Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Did they won this 25$ game after this video ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 I would try Macau before Thailand.Macau for gambling...Thailand for relaxing...Both places have great food.I prefer beaches and warm weather.Both have endless women to chase...if you are into that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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