Users tigerwho83 Posted September 24, 2014 Users Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Hello to all private members. I am thinking about joining up with you folks. Please give me some insight on what goes on and if it is worth the price. Are you guys winning consistently? What kind of money can be made and just your thoughts on the private forum. Thanks in advance!tigerwho83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users tigerwho83 Posted September 24, 2014 Author Users Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 my email is: tigerwho83@gmail.com for anyone who wants to chat outside the forum. Thanks again. Been chatting with Ellis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashout Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Hi Tigerwho83,I am a member of both NOR and MDB+ since June and I can tell you for the cost it is penny's versusthe amount of quality learning from the best Bac and BJ player in the world. I would highlysuggest you join both NOR and MDB+ like I did and I am still learning more everyday to fine turn my skills. Ellis responds to all my posts and is amazing. Hope to see you in the forum... Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pando Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Hi Tigerwho83,I am a fairly recent member to the MDB forum having been a NOR Member for some months.The forum is essential to understanding the MDB plays, it cant be learned from the manual alone.Ellis, Keith and Steve are pro-active professional who pass on their huge knowledge base tomembers, and quickly answer any queries members have.In my view its money very, very well spent - my success in MDB+ shows this alreadyIts a no brainer that you should joinPaul (New Zealand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Tiger, I know it's not me you want to hear from but here is a very recent quote from part of a post by way2fast one of our more experienced and most helpful members. way2fast was at $200 units the last time I played with him a few months ago. He may be higher now after his recent performance - none of my business. But this gives you a bottom line idea of what goes on here."So far am 27 wins vs 5 for 32 Vegas shoes played with MDB+. Average loss is 3-4 units per shoe; average win just over 6 units per shoe."MDB+ is a simple, purely mathematical way to beat Vegas or pretty much anywhere. Your buy in need only be 5 or 6 units - your choice and your highest bet ever is either 3 or 4, again your choice, but it won't even come up in most shoes. The system doesn't bet very often but when it does you have an extremely high advantage.As the Las Vegas pit boss said to Art, another MDB+ player who only plays MDB+ (I happened to be standing there watching Art's play)"Buddy you don't bet very often but you sure know exactly when to bet!" The whole idea of MDB+ is to play it for big units since the buy in only need be 5 while the win rate is over 80% and the system can't lose more than 5.MDB+ is our only system that doesn't pretty much bet every hand once started, so the guys frequently play it for high stakes while, at the same time playing one of our every hand systems for lower stakes.The whole idea is to win consistently W/O taking unnecessary risks.You're a smart guy - do the math. I think way2fast is up nearly $30,000 if he didn't increase his unit size somewhere along the way.BTW I frequently play alongside my players. How about Silverthorn? Does he play with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users tigerwho83 Posted September 25, 2014 Author Users Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Thanks guys and no Silverthorn does not play with me. I live in the mid west and get to vegas once a year. Now that I have found Baccarat. I am wanting to come 3/4 times a year. So you must be sitting at a table with other players so you can skip hands correct? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur331 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 What part of the mid west are you from? I'm from Missouri and all of the cards here are regular cards so I have most success with MDB (not MDB+) and NOR, but the other systems not so much. I won 900$ last night which covered my NOR fee and I've won a lot more in the past as well. I highly suggest you join this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Thanks guys and no Silverthorn does not play with me. I live in the mid west and get to vegas once a year. Now that I have found Baccarat. I am wanting to come 3/4 times a year. So you must be sitting at a table with other players so you can skip hands correct? ThanksGood question. We were a little concerned about that too for MDB+. But it turned out not to be a problem. First, there are virtually no head to head Bac games in Vegas. Second, they no longer require a bet every hand. Neither do on line games. Third, it is a simple thing to also play one of our every hands systems along with MDB+. Net Betting is usually the best system to mate with MDB+. So it is also taught on the MDB forum. Net betting has a goal of 20 units so we usually play it with a smaller base unit when mating with MDB+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Various casinos have various strategies. They aren't all the same. But ALL casinos have vulnerabilities. That is why we teach table selection and casing out a casino as well as tote board reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users Pamela Conkey Posted September 25, 2014 Users Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Hi tiger, I have been with Ellis since the early 90's first new blackjack then Bac.You wont find a better place to learn these games. I've had success with bothgames. He tells it like it is, period. Give it a try you wont be disappointed.Brian......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterP Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hi Tiger,I'm new to BTC as of a couple months ago. After trying other various strategies and website, this is the real deal. You will be happy you came across this site.I followed the methods in the NOR manual and have gone from a $5 base to a $50 base within a month and a half insuring to have 50 units of each along the way.I have been adding other aspects of MDB+ to my game to improve the overall methods of playing this game. I'm sure that if you do join you will see the wealth of knowledge about this game. Being part of the forum also helps as the casinos keep changing the game and us players can talk about other techniques to beat the casino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users tigerwho83 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Users Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Guys thank you for all the good things I am hearing from members. I am going to think about this really hard and make a decision soon. It seems like there is a wealth of knowledge in this forum. I honestly would like to play Bacc professionally If I can. Where I played at Treasure Island they hand shuffle after each shoe. Takes 10-15 per shuffle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users Pamela Conkey Posted September 29, 2014 Users Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Tiger, Treasure Island Las Vegas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users tigerwho83 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Users Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yes why what's up Brain?Tiger, Treasure Island Las Vegas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Files Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Hi, For what it is worth, i have learned more from beat the casino than any place else bar none. The systems and techniques taught here just plain work if you follow the rules don't get carried away or get mad if things don't always go your way. Join, you will be glad you did and so will your gambling bankroll! Edited September 29, 2014 by tjfiles didn't sign it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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