Up As You Win

[ztomsk]

Just curious if anyone has had any success with positive progressions?

Lately I've been seeing super streak or super chop at my casino. People are losing thousands betting against it.

Is U1D1M2 best? Or would some kind of positive prog take better advantage for long runs? Maybe a Fibonacci.

[trbfla]

Ztomsk

I really like the up and pull regression method using 2123 etc....allows you to lock in some profits....not to shabby when going for 6 per shoe

[BronxAl]

Ztomsk

I really like the up and pull regression method using 2123 etc....allows you to lock in some profits....not to shabby when going for 6 per shoe

I like the up and pull regression method using 1-2-2, start over with 1 after completing series or after any loss.

[ztomsk]

Cool thanks fellas - I'll give those a shot. Sounds interesting.

I think the casino might be throwing those long runs because people keep betting against them. Would love to catch one and ride it for a decent score.

Never tried it before because I'm a conservative player... but damn it's there to take advantage of.

[Guest]

Cool thanks fellas - I'll give those a shot. Sounds interesting.

I think the casino might be throwing those long runs because people keep betting against them. Would love to catch one and ride it for a decent score.

Never tried it before because I'm a conservative player... but damn it's there to take advantage of.

ztomsk, you are seeing a very rare and exciting money making opportunity.

It is similar to what we faced in Atlantic City and Vegas, late '80s, early '90s - way too many long runs.

You need to know the up as you win Fibonaci progressiom.

The simplest form is (2) 3 5 8 12 20 30 50 80 130 200 300 500 800 1000, depending on the table max.

BUT you DON't bet up as you win all the time - That's the secret of it.

Bet your normal 123 up as you lose progression in mode 2.

That puts your 3 bet on the run - either S40 or OTB4L but most likely TB4L.

Whenever you WIN your OTR 3 bet - fine. THEN go up the Fib.

You are only at risk with your 5 bet. That's it.

Because after that, you are betting only your winnings from the last 2 hands. See that?

So it's extremely aggressive but at the same time totally riskless after your first bet.

The idea is to get to the table max and stay there until you lose.

Look, the riskless nature of the Fibonaci is unique.

It is found throughout nature.

I didn't invent it. God did. It is God's progression.

So when you are contemplating that 80 unit bet......

Just remember - you've got God on your side!

Now here is a little trick when you are seeing LOTS of runs.

I got this from Michael The Arc Angel.

Bet the Fib U1D2.

Yep, when you lose, just go down 2 rungs and restart from there. If you lose go down 2 more.

That gives you the most opportunities to get to the table max.

You are seeing lots of runs and If you hit any runs at all they'll put you at the table max quickly. See that?

One of our members, Sherry Pelzman, played that way and holds our record for the most units won in a single shoe - 450!

Her table max in that game was 100 units ($10,000) So she won 4.5 table maxes - $45,000, less commission.

Hey, you are looking at a rare opportunity. But an advantage is not an advantage unless you take advantage of it!

Now you know the BEST way!

So, go for it! Beat 450 units! Let us know...

Edited February 18, 2015 by Ellis

[Guest]

BTW ztomsk when Sherry achieved that record she had about the same experience you have right now.

I had just taught her that method a few days before she actually did it in Las Vegas!

Too many runs is just a casino strategy aimed at beginners. Make the bastards pay!

[ztomsk]

ztomsk, you are seeing a very rare and exciting money making opportunity.

It is similar to what we faced in Atlantic City and Vegas, late '80s, early '90s - way too many long runs.

You need to know the up as you win Fibonaci progressiom.

The simplest form is (2) 3 5 8 12 20 30 50 80 130 200 300 500 800 1000, depending on the table max.

BUT you DON't bet up as you win all the time - That's the secret of it.

Bet your normal 123 up as you lose progression in mode 2.

That puts your 3 bet on the run - either S40 or OTB4L but most likely TB4L.

Whenever you WIN your OTR 3 bet - fine. THEN go up the Fib.

You are only at risk with your 5 bet. That's it.

Because after that, you are betting only your winnings from the last 2 hands. See that?

So it's extremely aggressive but at the same time totally riskless after your first bet.

The idea is to get to the table max and stay there until you lose.

Look, the riskless nature of the Fibonaci is unique.

It is found throughout nature.

I didn't invent it. God did. It is God's progression.

So when you are contemplating that 80 unit bet......

Just remember - you've got God on your side!

Now here is a little trick when you are seeing LOTS of runs.

I got this from Michael The Arc Angel.

Bet the Fib U1D2.

Yep, when you lose, just go down 2 rungs and restart from there. If you lose go down 2 more.

That gives you the most opportunities to get to the table max.

You are seeing lots of runs and If you hit any runs at all they'll put you at the table max quickly. See that?

One of our members, Sherry Pelzman, played that way and holds our record for the most units won in a single shoe - 450!

Her table max in that game was 100 units ($10,000) So she won 4.5 table maxes - $45,000, less commission.

Hey, you are looking at a rare opportunity. But an advantage is not an advantage unless you take advantage of it!

Now you know the BEST way!

So, go for it! Beat 450 units! Let us know...

Thats great thanks Ellis - appreciate you giving those tips. Will def give it a try. So with the U1D2 - that's always up as you win then? And go down 2 on any loss?

Quick question on the first method just so I understand fully. Is the 123 literally 123 or is that (2) 3 5? (Fist three bets)

Say it's an S40 shoe... I bet 1,2 against all 1's and 2's and then OTR once I see a 3iar? Is that bet 3 units or 5 units?

So in this S40 case the killer pattern is back to back 3iars correct.

Also the table max is 3,000... what do you recommend a good buy in would be?

I may not be able to beat Sherry, but I'll give it hell! Will report back with results.