How's that "Invincible Player" working for you?...LOL

[ECD]

You gotta love this stuff...P T Barnham absolutely nailed it...LOL

From the Forum that cannot be named...

Firstly...This from the Public Forum...

Therefore we made ANB and OTB4L partner 20 unit systems and the tote board tells us which is ideal for the shoe at hand. Between these two systems, we beat EVERYTHING a casino can deal. We are "INVINCIBLE"! ...Hmm...maybe not...

 

But behind closed doors...From the (not so Private) Private Members Forum...LOL

 

ANB is so new, we haven’t had time to experiment much yet....So let's flog off an Invincible System that isn't working under Casino conditions

I also like Carlos’ idea of only deploying the CSCS bet when both sides are suspended which is rare. But we don’t need to wait for the ZZ to go 5. We could jump in after it goes 4...YEP...Let's make it up as we go along...err...Isn't Carlos the independent source who tested 63 shoes and averaged +14...Why would you change winning formulae unless???

But the 345 puts a limit on your highest bet. I think ANB sorely needs that! ...Isn't that exactly what way2fast...PJ ...myself and others were all saying?

Carlos, give it a try. I think you will really like it!...Geroutovit Carlos...Put that smelly thing away...I meant the 3 4 5 ...not that deviate shit again...It's so hard to get good help nowadays.

July 25, 2017 at 11:46 am#5017REPLY

 

Participant

Spent some more time pondering the CSCS rule, and I almost completely agree that it should be abandoned. Here’s why: ...Don't tell me...let me guess...It isn't working...LOL

 

July 23, 2017 at 7:41 pm#5014REPLY

 

Spectator

 I am still exploring but keeping it no worse than minus 12 as I am giving ANB a wide berth to really get used to it ... MINUS 12...MINUS 12 you say??? LMFAO

 

July 25, 2017 at 11:29 am#5016REPLY

 

Participant

I think I would switch from OTB4L after 3 losses or get out of the shoe. I am having the same trouble.

Also using the OT count I have found out playing ANB I can lose on the +count and the – count just the way the card fall ...err...then why bother keeping a count?...I don't believe I just read that...beyond stupid...How do these people even tie their own shoelaces?

Don't quote me, but I feel Phase 7 of the CFC Business Plan coming up from our favourite scammer..."I have a new idea...Been 40 years in the making"...LOL

 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2017 by ECD

[ECD]

It doesn't matter what proof we offer that the Holy Grail of Baccarat doesn't exist...that there is NO mechanical system that can beat Baccarat...there will always be people desperate for a chance at the "Pot of Gold"...willing to grasp at straws...believing the blurb...hoping against hope that the next whoopie do new system that they shell out their hard earned for, will be the one that works

And as long as they exist...there will be "bottom feeders" that prey on their hopes...their dreams...and that pisses me off like you wouldn't believe.

If you want to join the ranks of the gullible and the "terminally stupid"...there are plenty of Sites that will promise you the world. BTC makes no false promises but has many members that have become winners through hard work and the assistance of other members and the use of the tools available on this Site.

 

Your call...

[wolfat]

BEFORE you put your money  in:

"Therefore we made ANB and OTB4L partner 20 unit systems and the tote board tells us which is ideal for the shoe at hand. Between these two systems, we beat EVERYTHING a casino can deal. We are "INVINCIBLE"! "

 

AFTER:

"ANB is so new, we haven’t had time to experiment much yet....  "

 

So you sell something for thousands and didn't test it widely?

...but have time for big promotion.

I found it so disappointing 

[ECD]

Well it's that time again. Fresh off the press from the forum that can't be named.

"Guys, I'm working on another system I call the OR system. Yeah, I know I said I wouldn't do that but I can't help myself. These things just come to me. 

Initially, I was looking for a better system to switch to when ANB is not scoring well but OTB4L doesn't look that hot. It beats 2,3s and has only ONE nemesis - blocks of runs on the tote board. Such as a 34545 - many strings of events W/O a one. These are very rare at most casinos but others tend to throw them at you. A block of runs is ALWAYS REPEATS. Other than that, it simply doesn't lose to anything. 

I'm in the process of playing my 13 Tunica shoes over again with OR. We already know how ANB does with them. Yes, I've got a couple guys testing but I've got to get Carlos involved. I'll let you know.

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1 hour ago, CT70 said:

Well it's that time again. Fresh off the press from the forum that can't be named.

"Guys, I'm working on another system I call the OR system. Yeah, I know I said I wouldn't do that but I can't help myself. These things just come to me. 

Initially, I was looking for a better system to switch to when ANB is not scoring well but OTB4L doesn't look that hot. It beats 2,3s and has only ONE nemesis - blocks of runs on the tote board. Such as a 34545 - many strings of events W/O a one. These are very rare at most casinos but others tend to throw them at you. A block of runs is ALWAYS REPEATS. Other than that, it simply doesn't lose to anything. 

I'm in the process of playing my 13 Tunica shoes over again with OR. We already know how ANB does with them. Yes, I've got a couple guys testing but I've got to get Carlos involved. I'll let you know.

Please tell me you are joking.  lol.  I know you are not CT.    Let's see, what system can be such a complicated series of events such as 34545 with minimal 1's........  He's got me.  And it only took him 40 years to get this.  This system will be a part of the CFC Red/Green Take-down #2.  

[ECD]

A very respected BTC player has asked for a refund from CFC because of all the false claims made about "Invincible Baccarat Systems". I seriously doubt that he expects a refund but is putting it out there as a warning to those thinking of wasting their hard earned on another scam system. 

Like he said...Over two years in the making...a manual smaller than the average Macdonalds Menu and still it wasn't fully tested and it doesn't work...Wrong on so many levels...

Somehow this post got past the CFC censors...or maybe they are just through caring and are concentrating on their next unbeatable system...Go figure... 

July 30, 2017 at 1:34 pm#5025

Pando

Participant

Hi CFC

I purchased the Final Word at quite an expensive price, but I thought it would be worth it if the promises made were fulfilled, and the promises were substantial.

But the only thing new in the Final Word was ANB, and now by your own admission, it doesn’t work. Further, you say it hasn’t been fully tested, despite us having to wait 2 years for the manual to be completed.

I feel ripped off.

Please refund my money in full to my Pay Pal account. That would be the right and decent thing to do

 

 

Edited July 30, 2017 by ECD

[ECD]

14 hours ago, CT70 said:

Well it's that time again. Fresh off the press from the forum that can't be named.

"Guys, I'm working on another system I call the OR system. Yeah, I know I said I wouldn't do that but I can't help myself. These things just come to me. 

Initially, I was looking for a better system to switch to when ANB is not scoring well but OTB4L doesn't look that hot. It beats 2,3s and has only ONE nemesis - blocks of runs on the tote board. Such as a 34545 - many strings of events W/O a one. These are very rare at most casinos but others tend to throw them at you. A block of runs is ALWAYS REPEATS. Other than that, it simply doesn't lose to anything. 

I'm in the process of playing my 13 Tunica shoes over again with OR. We already know how ANB does with them. Yes, I've got a couple guys testing but I've got to get Carlos involved. I'll let you know.

Wow, they moved quickly from phase 5 right to phase 7 of the CFC Baccarat System LIfe Cycle, posted on another thread.  Although clearly predicted, I didn't expect this for another couple weeks.

i have to say, that seven phase life cycle would be an extremely reliable signal and strong bias if it was like a bac shoe we could bet on.  Time for a new system?  Yeah, I will make my largest bet as soon as they start hinting to problems with the most recent, greatest system ever.

Its just so sad that potentially good players have gone down this rat hole and allowed this nonsense to continue.

[ECD]

8 minutes ago, way2fast said:

Wow, they moved quickly from phase 5 right to phase 7 of the CFC Baccarat System LIfe Cycle, posted on another thread.  Although clearly predicted, I didn't expect this for another couple weeks.

i have to say, that seven phase life cycle would be an extremely reliable signal and strong bias if it was like a bac shoe we could bet on.  Time for a new system?  Yeah, I will make my largest bet as soon as they start hinting to problems with the most recent, greatest system ever.

Its just so sad that potentially good players have gone down this rat hole and allowed this nonsense to continue.

W2F...You are much more the gentleman than I am...You still seem to look for the good in people...try to give them the benefit of the doubt and it genuinely saddens you to see the direction that people that you once respected have taken.

Me...not so much...I'm Black and White and from me...no benefit of the doubt...if you are deliberately misrepresenting a product to sell to people who are desperate for a way to improve their lives...giving hope when you know there is none...then 160 IQ or not...You are freaking "Gutter swill"...no more...no less.

It just makes me freaking angry...I know from experience that this game can be beaten given the right tools(available on BTC) and bloody hard work and commitment and to see so many people get ripped off and disillusioned by bloody scammers makes my blood boil.

It's not right...You know it's not right...I know it's not right and it frustrates the living shit out of me that people...nice people...decent people... get taken for a ride by scumbags. 

 

Hmm...I'm getting all worked up...best go find my meds...LOL

[ECD]

6 hours ago, ozscouser1 said:

W2F...You are much more the gentleman than I am...You still seem to look for the good in people...try to give them the benefit of the doubt and it genuinely saddens you to see the direction that people that you once respected have taken.

Me...not so much...I'm Black and White and from me...no benefit of the doubt...if you are deliberately misrepresenting a product to sell to people who are desperate for a way to improve their lives...giving hope when you know there is none...then 160 IQ or not...You are freaking "Gutter swill"...no more...no less.

It just makes me freaking angry...I know from experience that this game can be beaten given the right tools(available on BTC) and bloody hard work and commitment and to see so many people get ripped off and disillusioned by bloody scammers makes my blood boil.

It's not right...You know it's not right...I know it's not right and it frustrates the living shit out of me that people...nice people...decent people... get taken for a ride by scumbags. 

 

Hmm...I'm getting all worked up...best go find my meds...LOL

I am sure everyone has heard or have seen Disney's The Lion King and are familiar with the term "The Circle of Life" (CL).  The CL is present in Baccarat.  When guys decide that they are going to try and tackle this game they look for information that could assist in their journey.  They click on CFC not knowing who they are dealing with and the newbie reads:

• 160 IQ
• Expected 500 unit profits per shoe
• Only people with 160 IQ can teach you this and so on

The guy latches on and invests, and invests and invests and after the second and third system purchased and the guy has made zero to little progress he starts getting pissed off and fights back and then sooner rather than late gets the "CFC Black-Ball" because he refuses to be one of the sheep in the herd.  Now comes another new person who wants to tackle this game and the cycle starts over. 

It is unfortunate.    

[ECD]

12 hours ago, ozscouser1 said:

It's not right...You know it's not right...I know it's not right and it frustrates the living shit out of me that people...nice people...decent people... get taken for a ride by scumbags.

I agree Oz.  It is not right.  People should be warned, which is the only reason I post about it.  I'm not going to get worked up over it though.  I know what works --- those sleaze-buckets at CFC had plenty of opportunities to see what I (and some others) have discovered.  But their ego (i.e. 160 IQ, etc.) and their pure jealousy, greed and stupidity (all apply to Mr. CFC) all got in their own way.

Edited July 31, 2017 by ECD
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[ECD]

That post was removed from CFC.   Oz, W2F, I think we have a new member of the "Sent into the CFC Abyss" club.  

[ECD]

1 hour ago, McVince said:

That post was removed from CFC.   Oz, W2F, I think we have a new member of the "Sent into the CFC Abyss" club.  

Given the current growth in our membership...the SITCFCAC will pretty much outnumber the entire CFC Forum before Ellis can release his next "unbeatable" system.

I do however find it ironic that the combination of a 160 IQ and a self-confessed Canadian Hi Tech Geek with delusions of relevance took over 24 hours to discover the breach of their "Don't you dare question the Great Man" rules when a crusty old Aussie who struggles to switch his Laptop on spotted it immediately. 

I'm thinking that in the spirit of reconciliation (after all... I am renowned as a "People" Person) that I should send Dean the link to BTC so that we can keep him up to speed. 

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4 hours ago, ozscouser1 said:

Given the current growth in our membership...the SITCFCAC will pretty much outnumber the entire CFC Forum before Ellis can release his next "unbeatable" system.

I do however find it ironic that the combination of a 160 IQ and a self-confessed Canadian Hi Tech Geek with delusions of relevance took over 24 hours to discover the breach of their "Don't you dare question the Great Man" rules when a crusty old Aussie who struggles to switch his Laptop on spotted it immediately. 

I'm thinking that in the spirit of reconciliation (after all... I am renowned as a "People" Person) that I should send Dean the link to BTC so that we can keep him up to speed. 

That would be funny.  Better yet, email Ellis and tell him to sign up.  It's only $59 a month and he can really learn a lot of stuff on BTC because BTC has never been better than it is right now. 

[ECD]

6 minutes ago, McVince said:

That would be funny.  Better yet, email Ellis and tell him to sign up.  It's only $59 a month and he can really learn a lot of stuff on BTC because BTC has never been better than it is right now. 

Consider it done...I'll check with Keith first but I might even offer Ellis and Dean a Group Discount if they both sign up (and an extra discount if they keep Carlos, the undie sniffer...the hell away from BTC). A man has to have some standards.