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  2. System 40 Advanced

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Thank you andrea. And also, the casinos and the tables I always go play at are hand shuffled too.

    Hi Tim,

    where are in LV hand shuffled tables?

    However, this is a good thing for you; start to notice that, when a kind of event is strongly missing, I mean much less than half average, in the next 2 shoes be ready to assist a recovering of its avg. of this event. Strong action, strong reaction.

    andrea

  3. System 40 Advanced

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Thank you for your advised. From your long experience with SAP charting. So, we cannot depend on the SAP chart to decide what to do next then? It can only help, and you have to use your own judement to decide what is going on anyway?

    Hi Tim, sorry but your question isn't clear for me...

    anyway I believe that a shoe is a closed circle and everyone is different from the previous; sometimes it happens that a certain pattern is missing for a long period but probably this is due to a kind of shuffling. I'm used to play in Europe and here generally we're used to hand shuffling. This means that, when a kind of event is strongly missing in a shoe, I can reasonably expect it in the next one to recover its avg., I noticed this many times.

    What you can do is to check indicators and let them drive you.

    - are 1s low or high? how they appears, in bunches or singles?

    - are 3s or 4s above avg? how they appear, group by group or with 1s between?

    watch carefully your scorecard and you'll get a lot of infos to deploy in your play.

    andrea

  4. System 40 Advanced

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted · Edited by MVSeahog
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    Hi Ellis, I do have 2 questions to ask you as follows;

    1. Could you please tell me the most accurate (prefer 100%, if possible) on an OR count (-# or +#) to determine whether the shoe is Chop, Streak or Neutral?

    2. How many hands do we have to count on "new shoe", in order to get an LC, before we can start playing with that certain shoe?

    Hi Tim,

    I try to answer you from my long experience with SAP charting.

    Obviously doesn't exist a definite answer and usually this require a little judgment from you but you can look at some indicators that can help.

    I must say that more infos you have more accurate is your opinion on that shoe, also called table selection when you look for a suitable table.

    I'm used to divide the shoe in sections of 4 EVENTS tracking a line below, in this 4 events you should see, on avg. 2 1s, 1 2s, 1 3s. When 1s are BELOW avg. this shoe probably is going to be streaky; in general when some kind of events are below avg this influence the count and determine what kind of shoe you're seeing.

    In your scorecard you must look at the column of avg, this gives you some useful infos; generally after 8 events you should have a good picture of how the shoe's going: are 1s at avg? or more than normal? the shoe is choppy. 3s and 4s are high? probably the shoe's streaky. The events tend to stay tied? probably this is a neutral shoe. I suggest you to start looking at min. 8 events before starting, when you'll be more experienced you can decide to start before, anyway more infos you have, more accurate is your judgment.

    Hope that this help you.

    andrea

  5. My System

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Thanks Andrea! I didn't know quite where to begin on that shoe. Part of the time Slim seemed to be mixing TB4L with AD (not necessarily a bad idea) instead of OTB4L with AD (Across, Down).

    When we say OT or O/T we are saying OTB4L vs TB4L

    O = +1 = when an opposite follows a repeat or a repeat follows an Opposite

    T = -1 = when an opposite follows an Opposite or a Repeat follows a Repeat

    TB4L can be stated:

    Time before last or

    O following O or R following R or

    Bet opposites until you lose then R until you lose then O then R

    OTB4L is the exact opposite of TB4L - Opposite the time before last

    AD means Across Down =

    Across FROM YOUR LAST BET under a Repeat and

    Down FROM YOUR LAST BET under an Opposite

    Matching TB4L with AD in a minus OT count instead of OTB4L is probably a good idea.

    I don't think that's a so good idea: AD take care of 50% of appearing 2s, TBL misses ALL!

    In a shoe rich in 2s you're done...

    andrea

  6. My System

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Here's how I played Steve's shoe with ADOT. It may be a little messy in some areas. This is my first shot at importing an image so here goes. I know I made a mistake or two like missing the ZZ's at 21 but everything worked out all right anyhow. Oh and one other thing, when it's a repeat I use +1 and an opposite -1. I just naturally went this way since in my mind an opposite is a negative and a repeat is a positive. Don't ask why but I kept making mistakes doing it the other way. Screwed up brain I guess. After the shoe gets going I don't record the + and -. I let the losses determine what mode I should be in after that.

    Hi Slim,

    I just wanna outline that "your" OT count it's not an OT count, your is a CS count (chop/streak), even if you mark a "-" instead of a "+" how we're used here.

    Just for info for other members the O/T countshow how a shoe is neutral or streaky/choppy.

    To do this you must treat the plays like opposites/repeats:

    opt/opt = -

    rpt/rpt = -

    opt/rpt = +

    rpt/opt = +

    andrea

  7. Questions re SAP count and P vs. B

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Hi, I'll try to answer you between the lines:

    1. I still don't completely understand using only weighted event counts. E.g., with a SAP count of 6 10 20 8 the conventional wisdom is to bet 2s will go to 3. But there have been an equal number of 2s and 3s, 5 each. So why is it more likely 2s will go to 3 in THIS PARTICULAR SHOE, in which they're running equal, and which shoe doesn't know or care what the normal occurrences are in the long run?

    THE AVG OF 2S IS 1 EVERY 8 PLAYS, THE AVG OF 3S IS 1 EVERY 16 PLAYS THAT'S WHY THEYRE WEIGHTED DIFFERENTLY. IF YOU HAVE 5 2S ON AVG YOU SHOULD HAVE THEM IN AROUND 40 PLAYS, TO HAVE 5 3S YOU SHOUL SEE THEM IN 80 PLAYS, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT 3S ARE RUNNING MUCH MORE THAN NORMAL AVG. AND ARE HOTTER THAN 2S. THE SAP CHART IS TELLING YOU THIS: HEY, LOOK AT 3S! THEY'RE RUNNING ABOVE AVG, PLAY ON THEM!

    2. When counting 1s, 2s 3s and 4s does anybody have an opinion as to whether it makes a difference whether they are Ps or Bs. E.g., if only, or mostly, Ps have been 3s, would you be less likely to bet on B going to 3?

    THIS IS A CONSIDERATION I DID RECENTLY. IT'S PARTICULARLY TRUE WHEN A SIDE IS HOTTER THAN THE OTHER. THIS MEANS THAT ON THE DOMINANT SIDE YOU'LL HAVE MORE RUNS AND IN THE WEAK SIDE MORE SINGES. IF THE SHOE'S EQUILIBRATE THE EVENTS ARE DISTRIBUTED EQUALLY.

    Hope this helps.

    andrea

  9. MACAU members?

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Hi guys, I share this msg from a member, if someone is interested contact him as below:

    "Hey Andrea!

    Sorry for the rush notice but are any of your Bac friends in Macau right now? I'm on Vacation there for 3days and I'd love to see how they play the system and hopefully learn from them as well. I know that Cheung#### lol or something lives in HK but not sure if you know him personally etc. but if you do I'd love to meet up with him and "test" out the shoe together haha

    Thanks Andrea! I dont know if I can check my emails so if you see any friends of yours in Macau or Cheung etc, feel free to let them give me a call. My number in Macau is 5111 8705

    Thanks again! :)"

    ciao

  10. System / Table Matching - Ellis

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Hi,

    I prined out the manual for System 40 but dont know where I put it. Tried to find the link to the pdf file in this forum but couldnt. Can someone provide the link again for System 40?

    Thanks

    System 40

    Rules:

    1.) Starting at Play 2 bet a 1,2 prog on Opposites.

    2.) When it loses the 1,2 bet 1 unit on Repeat. Win or lose go back to OPs.

    3.) If your R bet lost next time you bet R bet 2, then 3 etc,

    4.) Your goal is +10.

    You don't have to color code. I just did that on image 1 to clarify the R bets.

    OK, we call it Sys 40 because Ann and I won 40 straight shoes in a row at 5 different

    casinos. That's probably a world record.

    Image 1: The regular version is played below on image 1. It uses a 1,2 prog on opposites

    and a 12345 prog on repeats. How high the R prog gets depends on how many 3 in a rows

    a shoe gets before it has a 4 or more. But only 1 shoe in about 500 has no 4 or mores. On

    avg. the R prog gets to about a 3 bet. Here it only got to 2. But I've had it go to 5 or 6.

    We always played the Regular version because we were playing big units.

    If the shoe was VERY streaky with long straight runs we simply stayed on the runs, once

    we bet on the run, with 1 bets until we lost.

    You can play the reg. version slightly more conservative by going back to 1 after losing

    your R bet. I didn't bother since it was such a good shoe.

    Image 2 is the same shoe played U1D2 M2. The advantage of playing this way is it

    handles long runs nicely. Note the 10 in a row I drew in below. But really you can stick

    with the reg version and if you are seeing long runs simply stay on them instead of

    jumping off after the one OTR bet. But if you play U1D2 M2, shoot for +20. I would

    only do this when a table proves to be very good. Its safer if when you win your R bet go

    back to 1. This version can only lose to a 3,3. In the regular version you don't like 3,3 but

    you don't usually lose to them.

    Image 3 is U1D1M2. You can shoot for 30 at a good table.Watch out for 3,3s!

    Have fun with it! It wins a lot of shoes. It probably loses to less than any other system we

    have. BTW, Some days you see no 3,3s and other days you see several. If you want to

    play it safe, after you lose your OTR bet under a 3, stop betting untill the 33 pattern

    breaks. Now the only way you could lose is to fail to stay OTR on a very long straight

    run and only on the regular version. Once a run goes 7, you can only be down a max of 2,

    so always go on the run at that point. Now the worst that can happen is a 6 ST that stays 6

    but that only puts you down a max of 4 and you can make that up

    this is the manual

    ciao

    andrea

  12. acronyms

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    RD1 = is a system, see the related thread

    F series = regards 2 twin systems F2/F3 see related thread

    F2 = Follow the 2s: bet under a 2 in a row till another 2 is formed, then switch side (stay at leats 3 bets on the same side after a switch)

    F3 = Follow the 3s: same as above but with 3s

    M2 = Mandatory 2: every 1 bet (won or lost) goes to 2

    RDH = same as below

    RD1H = RD1 (system) hybrid is explained in details in Maverick's system thread #503 pg.51

    Hybrid = mixing things from many sources

    Hope that this helps

    ciao

    andrea

  18. RD1 | N Discussion and Rules ECD Group February 22, 2010

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Thanks Andrea,

    I used to go back to 1 after losing 5, but I talked to Ellis and now when I lose the 5 bet, my next bet is 3 (keeping U1D2).

    That's how I played in Tunica.

    I used -10 in Tunica, but it could probably be lower, like our old favorite -8.

    That -10 shoe of mine really brought down the units per shoe. It was a real nightmare for most systems. I'll post it in a day or two. Personal stuff going on right now to take care of.

    PJ

    Tx for prompt reply,

    just one more thing: when lose the resume bet, you still re-hybernating till ww/wlw?

    ciao

    andrea

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