[My System]

Steve and John.........as per the shoe Steve listed using John's method having a loss of 11 units. I ran the same shoe using ADOT and I was never more than a -1 unit in the hole and by hand 46 was up +15 units which is my stop win. I really like this ADOT. To me, no point in reinventing the wheel.

i tried using your system with a shoe which i played at horseshoe in indiana last monday:

B2111142251

P11115821

B1214211211211

P3141121

with your system i lost -11u at the end, with a high of +9u and low of -15u.

the high score occurred during the back-to-back streak of 58 (T & OTR)

but mostly i was struggling when 1s and 2s are high in either mode (T earlier in the shoe, O later on)

at the tail it was in O mode but there was just the right smattering of 1s 2s 3s and 4s to really do damage

i tried playing it as if i were at the table and not trying to "look ahead" to see what i "should" do

well maybe you can play it better

[My System]

That's why to me personally, ADOT within the system itself provides for a switch, but it's still within the system. It's switching between different systems that I have a problem with.

Right again! The two concepts work out opposed to each other. Probably best to stay with the MAIN bias of the shoe and use no bets when the shoe goes contrary. There have been too many posts about I stuck with F2 or I stuck with RDH or OTB4L or whatever and did very well.

I think that is the weakness of Maverick. It doesn't isolate the MAIN bias or therefore the STRONGEST system and fall back on it when in trouble. The last 7 plays is fine if there is no main bias to fall back on but there usually IS a main bias and the last 7 plays can lead you away from it instead of back to it.

[My System]

But there's that switch again after 2 in a row or 3. I thought you wanted to avoid switching because that was what originally you were looking to avoid since that's when we start zigging when we should have been zagging. LOL

Right, but I'm trying to FIRST sttempt to avoid getting into trouble in the first place as much as possible.

Switch when you lose 2 in a row or 2 out of 3 such as a LWL. If that fails, then stop until you reevaluate.

[My System]

Possibly stay with the system you started with and when you run into trouble, stop the progressions, flat bet, and don't bet anymore until things straighten out. Just a thought.

Switching systems mid shoe has always been a damned if you do, damned if you don't type of dilemma.

When you switch after a certain number of losses, half the time you switch right when you would have hit.

Half the time the last 7 plays is meaningful and half the time it means the exact opposite. The same is true if you pick any other number of plays.

One observation: If you lost two out of 3 bets with your current system, it's exact opposite system would have won 2 out of 3. Where that gets us I don't know. Just thinking out loud. Does it give anyone any ideas?

[My System]

In your two examples, it appears the side that was dominant, stayed dominant, so it played right into your system. However, if there was a huge swing the other way, you'd be on a long losing streak. Once again, that's if I'm understanding what your are proposing but I could be way off base on my interpretation.

[My System]

I would think, if I'm understanding what you're doing, should the disparity between the sides became let's say 10 or more. Now let's say further in the shoe things are starting to even out whereby it was no longer +10 bur rather near even. Wouldn't you be betting on the wrong side for some time having a bunch of losers. That's the problem I see if I understand what you're doing.

[Bet Phoenix "Cutting it short"]

I see Sys 40 posted here in a couple of messages but I don't see a listing of that system anywhere on this forum.