Hellboy

In case the above is not ledgible I have transposed below. This is from 25/03/2018. Hellboy said: I notice you did not start betting until hand 10. Is this to give a better look at what the shoe is doing initially? The P221.... at the beginning can be enticing for OT betting, but I have fallen into the trap a number of times where the above goes into a chop, or a steak of 4 or 5 down, costing me 1 or 2 units in the process. Way2fast response: I don't wait any fixed number of hands. I try to start when the presentment of the shoe provides a good opportunity. In this case, my first bet was on the third 2MC. I could have done that on the previous 2iar, but I think I chose to wait - or it is possible Kevin was talking to me and I missed an earlier entry? LOL. In any case, I would not jump in at the 221, especially at the beginning of the shoe. Look, if the shoe is going to go perfect OTBL right from the start, I will still do very well - don't need to be on it for the first event or two. Patience is really a critical part to success in this game. In this case I was patient at the beginning and did just fine playing the 2MC and 2LN opportunities I saw. The really cool thing you might want to take note of is something that happens ALL THE TIME. Look at those first 13 hands and notice the very nice OTBL pattern. Also note what is happening on each side (always be in touch with what is happening on each side). Hand 15 was my first lost bet and it was telling - FIRST one on the Banker side. Note that at the same time (hand 17) was the first player event>2. So OTBL changed at once at this point - and it was indicated on both sides at the same time. Right at this point the player should recognise the shoe presentment has or is about to change, and should be immediately thinking it could go SS (strong side) player with another single Banker or two. See how an observant player can begin to anticipate and be ready to capitalise on the type of changes that occur in virtually every shoe. You don't want to be banging out OTBL right into an SS opportunity. A mechanical teacher would tell you just to bet OTBL with some kind of crazy projection that 'plows' through those changes. Yeah, it would work out through some of this (until the 7iar player). But I would advise you it is MUCH safer AND MORE PROFITABLE to flat bet or use a mild up as you win progression with a bet selection approach more in tune with what is actually happening in the shoe. That OT player would be no where near the 23 units, and would have missed an amazing opportunity. Master this and you will master FTS (Follow the shoe).

Focus is an important skill to have. Focussing on what the shoe is doing. Being able to notice subtle changes that are happening in the shoe. I have put 2 screenshots below from a discussion I had a couple of years ago with one of the professional players on the Premium players forum on BTC. This is one of the advantages of joining the Premium Members forum. I hope they are legible.

This is an example of a stadium baccarat shoe I played recently looking at some of the comments made above. H

Interesting video focusing on the 1st and 2nd lines which are the most populated lines in the shoe. This is covering the last 3 events on both sides. That is the last 3 single events or multiple events, or a combination of both on each side. E.g. there may be 3 previous multiples on the player side combined with 3 single bankers or 2 single bankers and 1 multiple Banker. In this case the next single Banker would stimulate a player bet, and the next player result would stimulate another player bet (a second liner). So both these bets would be focusing on the strong side at that time. There are a couple off rules mentioned in the video, however, even without the rule of at least 2 ahead in the count to identify the strong side, this concept seems to have merit in betting on what you see the shoe is doing. This is similar in ways to Brad01 last 3 events method published on the members forum a few years back, however did not focus on Banker and Player separately. As discussed in the members forum, biases tend to be short term, lasting maybe 8-12 hands before it changes, so this approach above may pick up a unit or two with the right focus on what the shoe is doing at that time. The members forum has a lot more documented information that can assist with approaches such as the one above. H

Hello Keith, Good comment as always mate. IMO studying and playing MDB(way2fast rules) is a great asset to your baccarat game. It alerts you to the frequency of events in the game, and you just automatically think twice before betting in a lot of situations. In fact I think way2fast commented that his game improved markedly after playing MDB so long just through the subconscious recognition of these frequency of events. Your example Keith a good one, however the 3 & 4s triggers of MDB will earn you a lot more money IMO. IMO the study and application of MDB is a must for any newbie, and everything he requires (way2fast rules, and excellent discussions and strategy) are in the members section for everyone to see and use. MDB can be boring to play at times, but making money is never boring IMO. MDB makes plenty of money. H

No magic formula. Choppy shoes will have more 1’s and so 1’s maybe MC. A run or 2LNR shoe will have less 1’s and so 1’s maybe LC. A mechanical LC/MC or any other strategy can be a costly (money) way to play. When you join the Premium members forum there will be a lot more opportunity to discuss these types of topics with many professional players who ‘have been there and done that’. Good luck to you.

No problem mate. Thanks for your feedback. H

Something to think about. Will ‘1’ stay ‘1’ or will it go to ‘2’. This is probably the most important question in the game of Baccarat. If you can answer this question then you will have unlimited success. My goal for 2018 is to get as far past 50% success rate as I can for this seemingly simple question. The only way you can potentially achieve this is through discussions between successful players on the Premium members discussion groups on BTC. Will ‘1’ stay ‘1’ or will it go to ‘2’.

Thanks for this CT70, I have been trying to convince the people I play with that this is the case, ‘the cards are fixed’, only to be seen as superstitious or paranoid. The cards have codes embroidered on them, the shoe reads the cards and displays the result on a tote board. The 2 points above enable any computer to arrange those cards in any order; an example may be preshuffled cards from ‘Angel’ or any other card prep organisation. Special packs for special situations/occasions/players, the casino opportunities are endless. With Stadium Baccarat the shuffle machines will have pre designed ‘algorithms’ to keep the excitement going. However there are only (one would hope) 416 cards in a fixed shoe for an hour or so, until the next shoe, and all this preshuffling can also work in our favour, as stated by CT70 above; as once a ‘bias’ is noted, a BTC professional can jump into ‘party mode’. All sounds a bit paranoid, but IMO the game has changed as is continually changing (being manipulated) structurally. The way to stay on top is with BTC and in particular, this forum.

Yep, such a shame. Baccarat is such a great game, far more than just B or P or 50/50 as the pundits say. Baccarat is a mental game by far. It will push the normal person to the limit. I see this every day as gamblers throw money after money away. There is no respect for the game with a lot of people, and it will bite them badly. The goal is ultimately to beat this game, and the human brain is said to be so much more sophisticated than any mechanical computer could ever hope to be. So what has happened to this 160 IQ? To me this ongoing debacle is so sad. Ego on its own is ok. Greed on its own is acceptable. We all want the best for us and our family and friends. Ego + Greed is such a deadly combination. 160 should know better. IMO. H

A great recent book to read is ‘Ego is the Enemy’ by Ryan Holiday. This will explain what can happen to an ‘160’ IQ. This book will do wonders for your Baccarat play. IMO H

Follow up note. When I say less than 1/2% players win, I mean in the long term. Anybody can be lucky in the short term.

Understand what you are saying Kino. I’m only a new member and this is a learning process. Think of the 4-5 guys writing a Baccarat syllabus for High School. There has to be a lot of experience and knowledge to do that. We work our way through the syllabus to develop our expertise by developing our own plan and then following it from what we have learned. Discipline. I see BTC as a school where most students will graduate (win) if they follow the syllabus. In any form of education the syllabus changes to reflect what is happening now. Outside of school less than 1/2% of Baccarat players will win, and I am cofident that is a fact. Since joing BTC (March), I have become a consistent winner over time (3-4 Units per session). I like so many players like to win, and keep it to ourselves. We know we are winners. I read everything those 4-5 players say many times over and put what works for me into my own plan and then try to stick to it. (The hardest part.) I am not a school teacher and is not supposed to sound like a lecture. Stick with BTC and WIN.

Good information Keith. Thanks