Well said Avion!
While I first enrolled 4 months ago not having a clue about how to win at Baccarat nor even having played a single hand live, I originally was put off by all of the "shennanigans" (for lack of a better term) of the past. So I cancelled the membership.
Two months ago, after a period of thought and reflection, I reenrolled because:
1) This is the only place that I found that has proven winners, people who actually make money and not just say they do and expect people to believe it. Who better to learn from? The losers?!
2) While there are a lot of "systems" here in the past and it is contradictory to say that in the long run you can expect to lose if you follow a mechanical system, even developing a methodology where two people can use the same method, make different wagers and both still be right in the long run needs to start somewhere and that usually begins with creating systems.This is the only place where the tools are provided and it is up to you to build the house. This is the way it should be. (I feel sorry for the masters of this game, but, I am very grateful that they put up with my ignorance when I "pick up a ball peen hammer instead of a carpenters hammer to drive the nail into the 2x4 and then go to find the sledge hammer because the ball peen didn't work and I think a different set of rules will work.")
3) This is only a game. We can send someone to the moon, yet, we cannot figure out how to make money playing this game? I don't believe that. This is to my knowledge the only place that has a winning method that is proven/verifiable. The struggle is not with the method, but, the struggle is with myself in learning it.
I had to "get over" the shennanigans, which are a thing of the past, and put my ego away. I had to get back to a "beginner's mind" where my cup is empty.
Ellis will always be a part of the "fabric" of BTC. Others will post and "bark" about what they like and don't like trying to tell others what they should say and what they should not say. This is all a part of life and will not change. I don't feel sorry for these people. I feel sorry for the likes of Way2Fast, Oz, Kevin, Keith, McVince, CT70, yourself Avion, Wolfat, Brad, Pando, XDotNet, trillion, Blitz, and all of the others (sorry if I did not include your name off of the top of my head) who contribute and give of themselves instead of "take" from the forum with an "entitlement" mentality. "I paid my $50 so I should immediately become a $5k chip bettor winning so much money that I don't know what to do with it!"
Uh..Ohhhh....
I just just realized that I stepped up onto my soap box! Time to get off! After all, I am only a squire who is sitting on the king's throne when he is not looking! LOL
And really, the conundrum is that you all already know this and most likely feel the same way in some respects. So why did I write this?
Two reasons:
1) For "new" people to the forum so that they have something to reflect on.
2) Just to say to you all that I am for one, appreciative and grateful for what you all do for me.
Thank you all very much.
Jim