gablaw

Some recent BPH shoes B2111111212126 Note streak to chop back to streak B71114132 B222122113111 B21111114 B11712121311 P71121233 B17111432 B2251 B131142131111 Because the OT count was neutral in the first half of the shoe, I net bet O vs. T (remember net betting?) Didn't know what else to do. Then OTB4L goes wild. B5312112212 P1321222214 P2

Try checking out Ellis' count reversal (or zero proximity) threads here. To me, it explains why sometimes I'd lose big time as the count was going up. It's going up because low cards are still coming out. It comes down only when 10s start coming , which is when you want to spread. And don't be too discouraged. When I first learned counting, I pretty much broke even playing $2 and $3 games in downtown Reno, and gave up trying to make money with it. But I figured if I could break even, why not play green and get comped at Harrah's Lake Tahoe. Guess what? I started winning and kept on going until one night I played at the $100 table in the bac room (which had been $25 that afternoon) and won $8000 in 4 hours. They had me down for a $4000 win but I was barred the next trip (after I was down a grand, of course). Funny too, the guy next to me kept telling me I didn't know how to play the game. (Hit a soft 18, hit a 13 against a 2 with a negative count?) When I was barred in front of the whole table, he was shocked. Btw, I saw my action on the casino's computer and they expected me to lose 2 average size bets per hour. Unfortunately, it also showed me winning 2 average bets per hour (even after pocketing chips whenever I could). I wouldn't be surprised if the casinos program a much larger expected win nowadays.

More Buffalo Thunder (great name!) 12/13/08 new cards (or close) B21432131111 P1123132421 P122112132212 B11 B1121311113122 B51114251 B23122442

2 shoes from Buffalo Thunder, Santa Fe,NM. 8 deck, machine shuffled. P1132111312121 B2323112123 B1151176 B413111121113 P122223112 P211122112242

Card counting hardly works anymore, mainly because the shuffle is so soon. In 2 deck games only one deck or slightly more is dealt. The money in card counting is at the tail end of the decks or shoes. And then there's the shuffles which clump the cards--see a lot of 20-20 pushes? dealer draw 2-4 low cards to make a hand? Card counting definitely can work-back in the 80s I didn't get barred from multiple casinos because I was a loser.

2 shoes from Buffalo Thunder, Santa Fe, NM. 8 decks, 5-6 pm, 10 minute shuffle B11111263511111211112113211144122281 P23411211313124112222133242141114

Never mind, I see it in your public post.

thanks for the replies. What is the sporadic one rule (anything like the despotic one rule)

11/7/08 Sandia Casino Albuquerque, NM Other deck machine shuffled 6-7 minutes. I assume the same for this one. Cards in play about 6 hours, don't know if continuously. This is the last 45 plays of the shoe- anyone have a way to beat it w/o sap (since Ellis doesn't bring it to the casino) Glad I didn't play it! The best I get is -8 with N1,2,3,4. F2 gets absolutely killed. Interestingly, BP and OR neutral but O/R count very minus until the end. B3324232421413111131111