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I would like to introduce myself to the private group. I am Joe from New York and I became a permanent member of this group about three weeks ago.

After reviewing the S-40,F-2,F-3,R/O,SAP modules enough on the beat the casino board, I feel I am prepared to take on the Casinos in Atlantic City the best I can. I will follow previous advice given to me by a professional here, and commit to going to the Casinos two times per week. I will mainly concentrate on going to Caesar's,The Taj and Trump Plaza because they are the ones with the most tote boards. I guess my fellow members know better than I why the other casinos there don't have, or just maintain minimal tote boards @ the Bac tables. I want to get to the point where I am perfect in walking by a board and saying "hey I got the right system for this table right now" without skipping a beat.

I will get to the Casino around 11am when I go. Usually all the available tables are totally occupied by Asians, so I must wait for the new tables to open up and watch the dealers ritual of cracking open new card boxes,washing and shuffling. I will follow advice given to me by Keith, and start off in the F-3 mode with beginning of shoes at these tables, and use 1,1,1 bets until I find an definable pattern to change into other system and betting mode.

My question is what is the best advice can you collectively give to me to look to change from the F-3 to any other system mode? I saw the posting from Ellis about the R/O just being one of the indicators, not THE ONE written in stone type, to use to change a system mode. What do my fellow members look for themselves in making that jump (or the worm turning) I really appreciate your advice. I know there isn't all one answer for this. I would to illicit thoughts from experienced BEAT THE CASINO members. I just would like to start out conservatively to make some positive results over in using S-40. I really would like to one day soon become a professional baccarat, like Ellis, Keith,in addition to the ones here who are have dedicated enough to be learn from what you both are teaching. I will put in all time necessary to make it happen for me too.

One final comment. As a new permanent member to your organization, I am glad Ellis,Keith and other professional members here are not abandoning the S-40 as of yet. I see there is new system discussed (ADN). But as one other member mentioned, I am still a neophyte when it comes to utilizing the S-40 system. So, it would almost appear that it would go by the wayside before I got even started. I realize that Ellis was assisting the Asians over seas with the casino card preparation in Singapore, but would it possible for the elders in this organization to concentrate now on putting the entire systems together in a fluid manual together? Please don't see this as a complaint. I am just putting in a polite request.

Also would it be possible to send me a short synopsis of the rules of how/when to use RD-1 and OTB4L? I am having difficulty locating them on the various threads. As I read through threads going back months and months, I am uncertain of how exactly to learn the correct rules. I just want to make sure that I learning correctly from the beginning.

Thanks for your everyone's help. You don't know how much I appreciate all the postings to help me and all new permanent members here. I am striving to become part of the club of one percent of the winners at a casino.

God Bless

Joe

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Hi Joe and welcome in our group.

The first advice I must give you is to PRACTICING a lot before fight real tables.

If you think to be well prepared, play "for fun" 20/50 shoes at Bet Phoenix and see results.

Even if live play is different from many more things that are involved, more you'll practice, more you'll be successful.

You'll also have an idea about playing at casino's speed.

Make your own plan: stop-loss, winnings protection, max bet and STICK TO IT!

About systems to put in play watch religiously your SAP CHART: you'll find there the infos you need; remember that when the pattern is changing, this is less reliable: stop and wait.

I suggest you, at least initially, to be selective in your plays: apply a system just when you're sure, otherwise WAIT!

You'll see that when you'll be more experienced things will be easier than now!

good work!

ciao

andrea

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Hi Joe and welcome in our group.

The first advice I must give you is to PRACTICING a lot before fight real tables.

If you think to be well prepared, play "for fun" 20/50 shoes at Bet Phoenix and see results.

Even if live play is different from many more things that are involved, more you'll practice, more you'll be successful.

You'll also have an idea about playing at casino's speed.

Make your own plan: stop-loss, winnings protection, max bet and STICK TO IT!

About systems to put in play watch religiously your SAP CHART: you'll find there the infos you need; remember that when the pattern is changing, this is less reliable: stop and wait.

I suggest you, at least initially, to be selective in your plays: apply a system just when you're sure, otherwise WAIT!

You'll see that when you'll be more experienced things will be easier than now!

good work!

ciao

andrea

Grazie, Andrea

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I would like to thank you all that took the time to respond to my for request for advice. I trekked out to Atlantic City yesterday ( Monday morning). It was a balmy 4f degrees when I left New York to get there. I visited Caesar's. It was about 10:30 in the morning and they had only one table going at the time. I observed the tote board and saw that the game in progress was a legitimate F2 situation. To get my feet wet, I played out the remaining 15 decisions and was up a couple units. Flowed into the second shoe in F2 mode and made an additional 13 units. Played out 24 decisions of the third shoe and was up 9 more units, and decided that since I am a neophyte I should really quit while I am up ahead at that point. I used a conservative 1,2,3 bet progression. Basically, I was looking to experience a positive session and begin to get comfortable using the S-40 arsenal of games. I will visit AC next week on two days next week and make it a habit of at least that much each week after that.

Finally, after finishing up at Caesar's I decided to go next door and visit Trump Plaza. I discovered that they have recently decided to cut off two decks, and they are now using six decks. Their games now are just about all No commission Baccarat. Might have commission Baccarat available, but the four tables in action was the no commission variety. Would anyone like to comment between using 8 decks and 6, and what type expectations is one likely to come up against at that Casino? Does S40 fair better or less favorable in a six deck game?

Ciao

Joe

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I observed the tote board and saw that the game in progress was a legitimate F2 situation. To get my feet wet, I played out the remaining 15 decisions and was up a couple units. Flowed into the second shoe in F2 mode and made an additional 13 units. Played out 24 decisions of the third shoe and was up 9 more units, and decided that since I am a neophyte I should really quit while I am up ahead at that point. I used a conservative 1,2,3 bet progression. Basically, I was looking to experience a positive session and begin to get comfortable using the S-40 arsenal of games.

Joe

Joe,

You couldn't have played that better if Ellis was standing next to you. A very hearty "Well Done".

You went in knowing your weakness (new game, new style, new system) you evaluated the situation and lightly treaded into the mine field that is the casino.

An early small success didn't go to your head and you played out the next shoe for a smooth win again. The third shoe had you up a comfortable amount and you decided to take their money and a good series away with you.

You didn't give it back which is what really separates the normal public from a winning player.

Once again, a very nice job and thanks for the report.

MVS

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