BacPlayer Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Hi All,Just joined this forum couple of days back and reading through the NOR manuals.I am having few doubts and hope the experts will throw light on the same.a) Is there an OR count which determines its a type of shoe. For Ex: On what negative count should i play the S40 system. When should i stop if the OR count moves towards 0?Later in the same shoe if the count goes positive should i be shifting to the F system or quit the shoe? When using progressions (123 4) if i lose/win a 3 bet what should be my next bet?c) What are these SAP systems? Is it something i should be learning as well?d) Where do i get the sample 6 shoes mentioned in the manuals for practice?Any advice for a new member would be greatly helpful.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchygal Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hi BacPlayer,Welcome to the forum. Here's the answers to your questions.a) Is there an OR count which determines its a type of shoe.For Ex: On what negative count should i play the S40 system. When should i stop if the OR count moves towards 0?Later in the same shoe if the count goes positive should i be shifting to the F system or quit the shoe?You are getting it wrong. A + OR count suggest S40, a - OR count suggest that you can play F. An OR count hovering 0 suggest OTB4L. When using progressions (123 4) if i lose/win a 3 bet what should be my next bet?If you are winning, and won your 3rd bet (3units) you will go back to 1 unit. If you are losing and lost your 3rd bet (total lose 123-6 units) you should quit if your score is -6. Cos if you bet the 4 units and lose it will go past the stop loss of -8. If you are winning, you can bet the 4 units.c) What are these SAP systems? Is it something i should be learning as well?SAP is a count of events happening in a shoe. For a start i think you do not have to learn it. d) Where do i get the sample 6 shoes mentioned in the manuals for practice?You can download the 6 shoes here in post #1http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6665&page=2&highlight=Manual+Sample+Shoes Hope this helps.Witchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users harut Posted August 1, 2013 Users Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 ) Is there an OR count which determines its a type of shoe.For Ex: On what Positive count should i play the S40 system. When should i stop if the OR count moves towards 0?Later in the same shoe if the count goes negative should i be shifting to the F system or quit the shoe?What number should i get in the game should I start when its positive 2 3 to start s40 when should start to bet otb4l? DO I switch systems in the same shoe? How to pick the correct mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 harut, I already replied in a new thread called "OR Count for System Selection" in the NOR forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Hi BacPlayer,Welcome to the forum. Here's the answers to your questions.a) Is there an OR count which determines its a type of shoe.For Ex: On what negative count should i play the S40 system. When should i stop if the OR count moves towards 0?Later in the same shoe if the count goes positive should i be shifting to the F system or quit the shoe?You are getting it wrong. A + OR count suggest S40, a - OR count suggest that you can play F. An OR count hovering 0 suggest OTB4L. When using progressions (123 4) if i lose/win a 3 bet what should be my next bet?If you are winning, and won your 3rd bet (3units) you will go back to 1 unit. If you are losing and lost your 3rd bet (total lose 123-6 units) you should quit if your score is -6. Cos if you bet the 4 units and lose it will go past the stop loss of -8. If you are winning, you can bet the 4 units.c) What are these SAP systems? Is it something i should be learning as well?SAP is a count of events happening in a shoe. For a start i think you do not have to learn it. d) Where do i get the sample 6 shoes mentioned in the manuals for practice?You can download the 6 shoes here in post #1http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6665&page=2&highlight=Manual+Sample+Shoes Hope this helps.WitchyHi Witchy! An excellent example of patience! BTW, I've been trying to wake you up! Our Singapore players need you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchygal Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Witchy! An excellent example of patience! BTW, I've been trying to wake you up! Our Singapore players need you!Lol Ellis I have been busy with work. I still pop in once in while to catch the latest news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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