# Review of the 4D Seminar video....

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So I guess that's a NO to posting a filled out 4D score card

Bobby, how many times do I have to say it. I'm working on it. I have to have complete rules first. Do you think we just pull them off a shelf someplace? Do you not read any of my posts?

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''I've decided not to put the P/B count in the B column because the PB cols are the most logical place to SS bet the few times that comes up. So my headings include a P/B count col. So my headings are # P B 1 2 3 4 + - S. That is probably more understandable anyway. ''

There seems to be some confusion over the headings and converting them over from O/R,O/T and OO/TT and now we have added P/B column as well giving us the heading s of : P B 1 2 3 4 + - S.

Using the KISS principle how about using the :

Number 1 for one play ago= O/R

Number 2 for two plays ago= O/T

Number 3 for three plays ago=OO/TT

So at a glance/casino speed you can easily see if the play was 1/2/3 plays ago instead of was it O/R_O/T_OO/TT...

Now all we need is another heading for the new P/B column! how about Lower case p/b? As we know the first P B are for circles

P B p/b 1 2 3 + - S = P B p/b O/R O/T OO/TT + - S or P B 1 2 3 4 + - S.

it might help...

Keep It Simple Stupid.

OK Lou. Good idea. That's the way I'll do it.

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As Ellis say the 4D Rules of the System is a work in progress... the 4D forum will be the manual and dynamically updated as backtesting, thoughts and suggestions from real play keeps coming in... we're like the live guinea pig/research students of the system... and Ellis being the Professor overseeing the project.

Priority is currently given to finalising Rules of the system and then the examples will come from himself and/or others later... You could have a filled out 4D Scorecard, but if the rules aren't finalised/clarified it may not make sense later to follow if the rules have changed and could potentially confuse rather than clarify...

In the meantime, practice and learn how to fill out a 4D scorecard, or start with filling out a NOR scorecard first and then the 4th 'D' will make a bit more sense... the Spreadsheet/PHP 4D Simulator/Analyser will also help verify that you are filling it in correctly...

All the best,

Peter

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Lou

P B 1 2 3 4 + - S.

Should be P B 0 1 2 3 + - S

LittleJim

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Lou

P B 1 2 3 4 + - S.

Should be P B 0 1 2 3 + - S

LittleJim

I like that better too.

Regards,

Glenn

"Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine per cent perspiration...do your homework" Thomas A. Edison

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Bobby, how many times do I have to say it. I'm working on it. I have to have complete rules first. Do you think we just pull them off a shelf someplace? Do you not read any of my posts?

Ellis, I have read your posts. And I've also read other members posts also asking for sample score cards. Just thought you could post a shoe with the rules you do have. Ok, I'll guess we'll have to wait for "complete" rules then. Thanks.

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yeah I thought about that Jim but I didn't want any one to confuse a zero with an ''O'' opposite.But yes its another option.

Regards Lou.

Lou

P B 1 2 3 4 + - S.

Should be P B 0 1 2 3 + - S

LittleJim

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Ellis,

Thank you for your explanation of OOTT and OT. It makes it a lot easier for me to understand the 4D concept. Again thank you for your time and

patience.

Ed Gil

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