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Hi Guys,

I am from Singapore and has been with RWS for the last 3 years. Has been ups and downs. Not easy to gamble full time. Here is my share of Baccarat experience in RWS.

1) System betters will likely to lose in long term because casino is using large numbers to beat us.

2) Baccarat is random.

3) Table hopping will prolong your winning sessions.

4) Do not let greed to overtake you.

5) Do not show off your winnings.

6) Be humble.

7) You must feel your luck. Once your bad streak of luck comes in, pull off. Casino is using large numbers to beat you.

8) Help others in need; and it will help you back.

9) Do not spend too much time in casino. Know your target. Once you reach your target, go off.

10) Do not break the trend.

Baccarat is a lonely game in casino. Just leave your message here to share what you have learnt in RWS and MBS.

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Hmm, while I'm familiar with most Asian methods, I am not familiar with names so RWS doesn't mean anything to us, - Sorry.

However, nearly all that you recommend, we agree with and also recommend.

Especially item 10! All Asian methods I have studied make the mistake of betting against trends so it is refreshing to me to hear you say this.

I do take some exception to your items 1 and 2.

Let's take item 1 first:

If you are playing a system that never or seldom bets more than 2, it takes the casino's money completely out of the equation and eliminates it as a threat. Agreed?

Item 2.

There is not much BJ in Asia is there? But in BJ we quickly learn that the cards are NOT random. The same cards, hand shuffles and shuffle machines are used in both games.

If the cards were, in fact, completely random, there would be no trends and therefore no way to beat the game.

But for many technical reasons which we thoroughly discuss here at BTC, randoms cards every shoe is virtually impossible.

Also, if the cards were always perfectly random, casino profits would be limited to commission, wouldn't they. Because in random cards it would be just as hard to lose as it is to win. But, I'm sure you have already found that in actual play, it is much easier to lose than it is to win, isn't it.

Therefore the BEST way to play is to know how to identify the tables where the cards are the LEAST random and THEN play the resulting trends. Agreed?

As humans, we might succumb to racial tendencies. After all, we are all merely human.

But here is an absolute fact: The CARDS HAVE NO RACIAL TENDENCIES, do they. Race hasn't a thing to do with it.

Therefore, don't take it personal when I tell you that we have progressed much further in this game than any of the Asian methods I have studied.

We have taken the game to a new level. And we are at that level all by ourselves - a very lonely position.

Your English is excellent so there is no language barrier for you.

So OK, your ups are about equal to your downs with this RWS method, aren't they. This means that long run, you are merely keeping up with the normal odds of the game - 50/50. You might just as well be flipping a coin. See that?

Look, you gave it 3 years. That is more than enough. Now, you need to advance to us.

At BTC we will show you exactly how to make your downs less and your ups more.

We will teach you how to play very effectively without betting more than 2 units.

We will teach you how to play with almost no risk.

Oh, and you certainly will not be the first Asian we've taught - not even the first Singaporean - or however you say it.

Price? Less than the average player loses every day he plays.

Come with us - You'll be glad you did. Everyone else is. And our players talk freely to each other all the time.

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Hi Hamster,

I played Baccarat for 3 years. I think I can make a living out of it. I am still learning each time I go to casino and controlling my inner emotions.

My unit size is $50 or $100. I would go down to casinos on weekends because there are many crowded tables around. I usually go back home when I hit $1200. It would take me about 8 hours to win $1200. I played leisurely.

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I will be going down to RWS on 1 June, at about 1200hrs. I am alright to meet anyone there and say how is it going. I usually prefer to play my own because I jumped from tables to tables fast.

Would hope to meet like-minded locals. You can drop a note here or PM. Try to keep it short. We will meet in the casino.

Each day at Casino, it is a battle day! Do not let down your guard. If your systems are winning, keep to it. Do not change your style.

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Hmm, while I'm familiar with most Asian methods, I am not familiar with names so RWS doesn't mean anything to us, - Sorry.

However, nearly all that you recommend, we agree with and also recommend.

Especially item 10! All Asian methods I have studied make the mistake of betting against trends so it is refreshing to me to hear you say this.

I do take some exception to your items 1 and 2.

Let's take item 1 first:

If you are playing a system that never or seldom bets more than 2, it takes the casino's money completely out of the equation and eliminates it as a threat. Agreed?

Item 2.

There is not much BJ in Asia is there? But in BJ we quickly learn that the cards are NOT random. The same cards, hand shuffles and shuffle machines are used in both games.

If the cards were, in fact, completely random, there would be no trends and therefore no way to beat the game.

But for many technical reasons which we thoroughly discuss here at BTC, randoms cards every shoe is virtually impossible.

Also, if the cards were always perfectly random, casino profits would be limited to commission, wouldn't they. Because in random cards it would be just as hard to lose as it is to win. But, I'm sure you have already found that in actual play, it is much easier to lose than it is to win, isn't it.

Therefore the BEST way to play is to know how to identify the tables where the cards are the LEAST random and THEN play the resulting trends. Agreed?

As humans, we might succumb to racial tendencies. After all, we are all merely human.

But here is an absolute fact: The CARDS HAVE NO RACIAL TENDENCIES, do they. Race hasn't a thing to do with it.

Therefore, don't take it personal when I tell you that we have progressed much further in this game than any of the Asian methods I have studied.

We have taken the game to a new level. And we are at that level all by ourselves - a very lonely position.

Your English is excellent so there is no language barrier for you.

So OK, your ups are about equal to your downs with this RWS method, aren't they. This means that long run, you are merely keeping up with the normal odds of the game - 50/50. You might just as well be flipping a coin. See that?

Look, you gave it 3 years. That is more than enough. Now, you need to advance to us.

At BTC we will show you exactly how to make your downs less and your ups more.

We will teach you how to play very effectively without betting more than 2 units.

We will teach you how to play with almost no risk.

Oh, and you certainly will not be the first Asian we've taught - not even the first Singaporean - or however you say it.

Price? Less than the average player loses every day he plays.

Come with us - You'll be glad you did. Everyone else is. And our players talk freely to each other all the time.

RWS and MBS are not baccarat systems, they are names of the only two casinos in Singapore, Resort World Sentosa and Marina Bay Sands. Technically, they are not casinos, they are integrated resorts, them having a casino is to provide a wholesome entertainment experience for the entire family, of course, we all know which part of the business draws the most income for these integrated resorts.:wink::wink:

And you got that right, people/citizens from Singapore are known as Singaporeans.

I'm saving up so I can join you guys in BTC soon.

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Hi Hamster,

I played Baccarat for 3 years. I think I can make a living out of it. I am still learning each time I go to casino and controlling my inner emotions.

My unit size is $50 or $100. I would go down to casinos on weekends because there are many crowded tables around. I usually go back home when I hit $1200. It would take me about 8 hours to win $1200. I played leisurely.

If you could do this consistently, you would be a millionaire in no time...

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Hi All, any full time baccarat professionals here?

I don't consider myself a "PROFESSIONAL" in the mould of Ellis...but it is my sole income source and I'm doing OK.

I don't strictly adhere to any particular method as taught on BTC...but have adapted Ellis's methods and developed a style that suits my conservative personality

Except when Netbetting...I only flatbet single units and my PA consistently hovers between 120% and 130% which beats the hell out of Bank interest...LOL

It's taken me a few years to get where I am now (I was a slow learner...but a hard worker) and each day I like to think that my play improves a little more

Ellis has taught me heaps as have so many of the top players on BTC (in particular Norm... RIP)

I started betting online with a $100 Bank and have reached the point where I now use $500 units as my base

You can certainly learn to dramatically increase your "winnings" here...but it may not be quite as easy as some people expect. If you put in the hard yards and don't treat Baccarat as an occasional hobby...then you can become the Casino's worst nightmare.

Think of BTC as like attending University...If you study hard...do your homework...You will WIN...but again..."DON"T EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT"

Good luck to all

Oz

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Hi Oz, I read your posts in the past but then you disappeared for a while.

Its good to hear the progress of where you started out to where you are now - that's huge

Especially a guy from Australia as our casinos are pretty bad here and they have a monopoly although you mostly play online?

I've been hanging on this public forum for years never making the outlay to join up but I never post much as I hate to be labelled as a guy who's trying to get something for nothing - I'm gonna find the $$ and join up today to NOR

Will you help me out to get my game on track?

Thanks

Brad

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I don't consider myself a "PROFESSIONAL" in the mould of Ellis...but it is my sole income source and I'm doing OK.

I don't strictly adhere to any particular method as taught on BTC...but have adapted Ellis's methods and developed a style that suits my conservative personality

Except when Netbetting...I only flatbet single units and my PA consistently hovers between 120% and 130% which beats the hell out of Bank interest...LOL

It's taken me a few years to get where I am now (I was a slow learner...but a hard worker) and each day I like to think that my play improves a little more

Ellis has taught me heaps as have so many of the top players on BTC (in particular Norm... RIP)

I started betting online with a $100 Bank and have reached the point where I now use $500 units as my base

You can certainly learn to dramatically increase your "winnings" here...but it may not be quite as easy as some people expect. If you put in the hard yards and don't treat Baccarat as an occasional hobby...then you can become the Casino's worst nightmare.

Think of BTC as like attending University...If you study hard...do your homework...You will WIN...but again..."DON"T EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT"

Good luck to all

Oz

Sorry to hear Norm passed away.

Did this just happen recently?

It sounds like Norm was a heavy hitter with Baccarat and did very well for himself.

Ozscouser, I am talking with skilled Baccarat player on another forum and he makes it sound like the Australian casinos are real A**holes.

Lots of times they won't even open a table for the guy and he gets the sense they see him as the enemy.

BTW - What online casino can you recommend to play on? Obviously, I would want one with a live camera feed, from a real casino.

I checked out Party Casino (Party Poker) and it looked like it was rigged. Not even a real casino...I will pass...

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Hi Hamster, yes the B+M casinos in Australia are tough IMO as there is nowhere else you can go apart from online.

Perth and Melbourne are the same owner, maybe the others are too but not sure.

Dont think I would play blackjack as they are all CSM's.

They have recently launched a big bunch of baccarat tables on main floor which they have never had so obviously their focus on baccarat recently has increased.

Worst comes to worst I will play airball roulette starting out as its single zero and low minimum ($5)

Might go down today for a quick game as its Sunday and I'm getting itchy thinking about it.

Would really like to go check out the casinos in Singapore though as its only a 5 hr flight out of Perth.

Heard plenty about Marina Bay but what about RWS? - is it as good or not?

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Sorry to hear Norm passed away.

Did this just happen recently?

It sounds like Norm was a heavy hitter with Baccarat and did very well for himself.

Yes, just a few short months ago.

I played with him on his last Vegas trip. It was still early in the trip and Norm was $170,000 up just for that trip.

Norm started with $25 units when he joined BTC just a few years ago. He worked his way up to $5000 units.

Norm posted 60 of his shoes not that long ago. He averaged 6 units a shoe. He never bet more than 2 units. If you do the math, you'll see that his profits for just those 60 shoes at $5000 units was 1.8 million.

Norm showed all of us that it CAN be done! He is our greatest inspiration.

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Hi Oz, I read your posts in the past but then you disappeared for a while.

Its good to hear the progress of where you started out to where you are now - that's huge

Especially a guy from Australia as our casinos are pretty bad here and they have a monopoly although you mostly play online?

I've been hanging on this public forum for years never making the outlay to join up but I never post much as I hate to be labelled as a guy who's trying to get something for nothing - I'm gonna find the $$ and join up today to NOR

Will you help me out to get my game on track?

Thanks

Brad

Australia was the first to experiment with preshuffled cards.

You will want to work your way up to MDB+ which is designed for preshuffled cards.

You don't bet very often but your win rate is the highest ever attained in the history of Baccarat.

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Hi bola sutra, are u playing nor in mbs? How is your success thus far? Can you share what is the wager per unit and what pattern do you use to wager? Thanks

I am getting good result at RWS. That is my usual playground. Doesnt really like MBS because of the location, no pretty dealers.

I am using a modified Brian bet selection method. Brian system is about most shoes will not have streaks. If it has streaks, just follow and u will huat.

I would say 40% depends on yourself. 30% on bankroll. 20% on luck. 10% on betting selection.

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I am getting good result at RWS. That is my usual playground. Doesnt really like MBS because of the location, no pretty dealers.

I am using a modified Brian bet selection method. Brian system is about most shoes will not have streaks. If it has streaks, just follow and u will huat.

I would say 40% depends on yourself. 30% on bankroll. 20% on luck. 10% on betting selection.

Hmm, I would say 100% depends on betting the right side. There is no such thing as luck - you make your own. Guys, there are MUCH better ways to play than that. That is beginner crap. Streaks occur at the exact same frequency as ZZ runs the same length, long term. That's pure math. If you guys are going to play this game, you need to be taught by a Pro.

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