Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted December 9, 2014 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 This is NOT a story about Billy Joe and Bobby Sue, or even The SteveMiller Band, but the analogy is very appropriate.Walking into the RedRock casino last night got a call from member trbfla and we were discussing NOR, 4D, strategies, money management, etc...one of the things we talked about was making sure whatever was going on with the shoe was a critical element to ANY system, strategy, money management, etc...Little did I know what was coming.Never, ever, never have I seen a shoe like this!P21111111111111121111111211113212111112112111111223311111Billy Mack, aka the floor manager, came over and stood there watching to make sure the dealer was dealing correctly ( acting like he knew what was going on..HA!)Not sure whatever happened to Billy Joe and Bobby Sue, but I TOOK THE MONEY AND RAN RIGHT OUT OF THE CASINO....I don't care WHAT system you play, this shoe was-amazing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedda Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 WOW!! It would be intresting to know what kind of bias the shoe produced in the game after.Do I have to ask if it was regular cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted December 9, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 FF-This For certain. It was the red-color cards, and they came out of the shuffler.NOT a touch game, but usually beginning of shift new cards are delivered in Pre-packaged 8deck bundles, given a quick hand-shuffle, then placed in the auto-shuffler awaiting the next game...since I arrived after shift changeover, not sure what they were?!( by end of game, I was hungry, so I left the casino and had dinner...come to think of it...maybe I should have stuck around for the blue cards !!!!!!)Hmmmmmmmn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trbfla Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Wow now that's a shoe .......insert up as you win here.....two words high limit Quote I yell "winner winner chicken dinner on all naturals" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druck Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Red Rock - I was there in late March. I'm new to Bac, but I've been reading BTC for a month or 2, and I like all the info available here. Trying to make the time to play more to justify joining as a member. I'm in the midwest and the closest casinos are an hour away.Anyways, on my last night in Vegas I stopped once more at Red Rock and hit a "trend" that was so obvious, but I was so delirious from lack of sleep that I missed most of it. It happened at the end of the shoe. Like I said, I'm new to this. Should have been at table max (5K) for the last few hands.It was starting to show some with 2 or 3 B, followed by one P. Then it went.....BBBPBBBPBBBPBB and third was a tie, so I left it on Bank and it ran on for a total B run of 11 (BBBTBBBBTBBBB) at end of shoe.Red Rock had no commiss, so the ties pushed.I was the only one playing, except one other joined on the last 8 plays. I needed to be playing along with someone who new what the heck they were doing. I've already told myself that I will never, ever see this again. So I need to learn how to play better.Too bad that I "left the money."Also, I said "Hi" to Mr. Davis at the Golden Nugget on Saturday night. He seemed a little busy at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Red Rock - I was there in late March. I'm new to Bac, but I've been reading BTC for a month or 2, and I like all the info available here. Trying to make the time to play more to justify joining as a member. I'm in the midwest and the closest casinos are an hour away.Anyways, on my last night in Vegas I stopped once more at Red Rock and hit a "trend" that was so obvious, but I was so delirious from lack of sleep that I missed most of it. It happened at the end of the shoe. Like I said, I'm new to this. Should have been at table max (5K) for the last few hands.It was starting to show some with 2 or 3 B, followed by one P. Then it went.....BBBPBBBPBBBPBB and third was a tie, so I left it on Bank and it ran on for a total B run of 11 (BBBTBBBBTBBBB) at end of shoe.Red Rock had no commiss, so the ties pushed.I was the only one playing, except one other joined on the last 8 plays. I needed to be playing along with someone who new what the heck they were doing. I've already told myself that I will never, ever see this again. So I need to learn how to play better.Too bad that I "left the money."Also, I said "Hi" to Mr. Davis at the Golden Nugget on Saturday night. He seemed a little busy at the time.No Luck Druck-This is why you need to join! Likely will make your money back in just a few sessions...Even more important, but rarely mentioned, is the money you will SAVE BY NOT LOSING by eliminating " avoidable mistakes" once you learn the systems...Understand about being an hour away from Casinos, but many, many of our members are much farther even...in fact, I spent 2007-2013 living in FL and having nearest casinos 4 hour drive away...Good luck and hope you see clear to join as soon as you are able...Nice Casino that RED ROCK, huh? It's the nicest " suburban casino" in the Vegas area, and rivals many of the strip casinos...Next time you are in town give me a call and I'll walk over to The RR and meet you there ( or I'll drive down to the Golden Nugget!)Kevin850-687-3128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druck Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 kachatz1 - Yes, joining will get done soon.Dollars + Distance make it harder to play. I have a small bankroll, so that equation makes it harder to join. But, those are excuses...............The Red Rock was very, very nice. I have family that lives nearby, so we spent most of our casino time there. Closest we got to the Strip was a helicopter ride above it. Made for a great trip. I had to gamble a little at the Nugget and wanted to say I played Big Bac. So I put $25 into a $5 slot that made a $100 and put that into a $100 machine for one spin that made another hundred. Took that $200 and lost it in two plays. That was for fun.Hope to make it out again in the fall. I'll let you know when I make to Red Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted April 4, 2015 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 kachatz1 - Yes, joining will get done soon.Dollars + Distance make it harder to play. I have a small bankroll, so that equation makes it harder to join. But, those are excuses...............The Red Rock was very, very nice. I have family that lives nearby, so we spent most of our casino time there. Closest we got to the Strip was a helicopter ride above it. Made for a great trip. I had to gamble a little at the Nugget and wanted to say I played Big Bac. So I put $25 into a $5 slot that made a $100 and put that into a $100 machine for one spin that made another hundred. Took that $200 and lost it in two plays. That was for fun.Hope to make it out again in the fall. I'll let you know when I make to Red Rock.One nice thing about BAC is you don't have to play every hand...in fact, many players " sit out" 5,10 or even more between hands they actually bet on...Also, with smaller bankrolls, many casinos will let you bet " both sides" of the Player/ Banker...Let's say the table minimum is $ 25, but you want to make a $10 wager on Banker...just bet , say $35 on B, and $25 on P...your net bet is $10 on B...( and YES, I understand all the commission implications of doing this...)Another strategy is many, many casinos will still let you " add" a smaller amount than table minimum bet to an accommodating player's bet...( say she bets $50.00 and you add $10 " on top of her bet"....)a win, and you pay your commission separately...( if any)Another way is table minimums @ some casinos are only $10-$15, but this is getting harder-and-harder to find in BacFinally, there is always the online Casino route...but MakeSure you fully understand The Good, The Bad and The Ugly as relates to same for US players, and whatever you do, DoNot accept any " bonuses"!But most of all, don't join anything until you are ready to immediately begin to study/practice what you learn many, many times...many shoes...B4 you try " the system" at Casino Speed...with real money ( some players even like to practice on line, but being in a real bricks and mortar casino you'll be confronted with far more distractions...)Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druck Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 The casinos that are closest usually have $10-15 min, but only one or maybe two tables in the whole place. And sometimes they don't open until the evening. The RR also had $15 min, which was nice, and that is do-able. I have figured out to sit out hands when the going is tough. Can you suggest places to "practice"? Are there some on-line places that you can play with no money? Not really interested in playing for real $$ via the internet.ThanksDruck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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