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Hi Way2fast,

I will most likely be in Vegas March 27,28 and 29th . Let me know how things

go. I would really like to meet up with you so learn more since you have

been a member since 2011. When you see a trigger do you play if the triggers are iar or can then be spread

out like 21112 and bet 2 will become a 3 or do the triggers need to be one after the other? Thanks a million

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Hey cashout,

Those dates in March I will be Biloxi to play in the Champions PGA Tour proam and a few days of baccarat.

In your example, the trigger is the second 2. It does not have to be consecutive 2s, but there cannot be a a 3 or more between the two 2s.

Way

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Thanks way2fast.. When would you have a signal not to play 2 iar going to 3 ?? Reason why I am asking

because I have seen were there are ton's of 2 iar but you don't know if its going to continue that way

until the shoe plays out. Also I have seen it were there would be lots of 1.2,3 but never a 3 going to 4 but

there would be numerous 3 iar..

I also forgot to mention do you walk around from table to table and when you see an opportunity you

make the bet or do you stick to one table through the shoe until it ends?

I didn't know you are a golf player. I hope you win the JACKPOT !!

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The only time I would not play the trigger is when a shoe starts super choppy -- nothing but 1s and 2s. In such a case, I would not play any trigger based on the 2 (that would be the 1 stays 1 and 2 goes to 3). The reason is that it is very common to get super chop shoe starts which sometimes last for 20 to 50 plays. Once there is a 3, then I would play the 2 triggers as usual.

Yes, some shoes seem to have a high number of 2s or 3s, and sometimes that means a progression will be lost. In the history of all my play, the 2 goes 3 has won 94% of the time. So yes, sometimes the 2s keep coming, but with that win rate history I have no trouble making the 1, 2 and 4 unit bets -- even at very large unit sizes.

For my golf skills, clearly just an amateur. I am playing in the proam, but of course not the professional tournament that weekend. I know a few of the tour players so will usually arrange to meet up with them 2-3 times a year. As they are playing Fallen Oak in Biloxi, I thought this would be a good tournament to go to and check out the Biloxi casinos for the first time.

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The only time I would not play the trigger is when a shoe starts super choppy -- nothing but 1s and 2s. In such a case, I would not play any trigger based on the 2 (that would be the 1 stays 1 and 2 goes to 3). The reason is that it is very common to get super chop shoe starts which sometimes last for 20 to 50 plays. Once there is a 3, then I would play the 2 triggers as usual.

Yes, some shoes seem to have a high number of 2s or 3s, and sometimes that means a progression will be lost. In the history of all my play, the 2 goes 3 has won 94% of the time. So yes, sometimes the 2s keep coming, but with that win rate history I have no trouble making the 1, 2 and 4 unit bets -- even at very large unit sizes.

For my golf skills, clearly just an amateur. I am playing in the proam, but of course not the professional tournament that weekend. I know a few of the tour players so will usually arrange to meet up with them 2-3 times a year. As they are playing Fallen Oak in Biloxi, I thought this would be a good tournament to go to and check out the Biloxi casinos for the first time.

Excellent comments John!

I was a horrible golfer when I started. But, as an Engineer, I paid close attention to cause and effect. I ended up as a scratch golfer.

I see many parallels in the two games:

One is discovering who your enemy is - It is not them. It is YOU.

One mistake I made playing MDB+ that perhaps all can benefit from:

I sat down to a Vegas 14 player touch game - $100 min - new factory preshuffled cards

Right from the start it was a perfect TB4L game.

So did I switch to TB4L?

No, because I was there to play MDB+.

WRONG!

We must always remember that preshuffled cards are designer shoes.

We must get into the head of the designer.

Sure, such games will USUALLY be MDB+.

But that fateful shoe had no 2s whatsoever - An easy +30 TB4L shoe.

Designers aren't stupid. They won't ALWAYS be obliging.

They are smart enough to throw a ringer shoe at you every now and then.

WE must be smart enough to realize that fact.

When everything is said and done, we must play what IS.

And what IS is not always what we were expecting.

We are playing against pros!

We must be equally professional.

When they throw a ringer at you, drop everything and punish the bastards.

Never tie your own hands!

Every now and then you will get a strong NOR shoe!

PLAY IT!

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Do you walk from table to table and if you see a trigger you play it or do you

stick to one table at a time for the duration of the shoe?

One table at a time. But, if that table is not producing, LEAVE!

There is always a best table. Our job is to find it.

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