BigVic
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The rumor is they have real baccarat now and not the bastard version "California baccarat" where they collect a tax or vig on every hand win or lose.
Just don't go out on foot around there. Rough neighborhood, with an emphasis on the word, "hood".
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Wow! And I was disappointed after spending $350 for the 4D seminar that fizzled out at the end. I guess I should feel lucky, huh? LOL
If I ever spend 5 grand on a gambling system may I rot in Hell. LMAO. No I didn't pay 5 grand for 4D, I was just trying to cheer up CdnChamer.
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WARNING... READ AT YOUR OWN RISK, BECAUSE NOW... I'm not a happy camper.
Whoaaaaaaa! Wait just a minute there Eliis..... This Million Dollar system has absolutely nothing to do with 4D of which you were heavily touting in the fall of 2013 and even to the extent of hosting a 4D seminar in Vegas with a system that would provide us the answer to use a Super Bett!! Wow, so many people were so excited and followed our high IQ master...... Ellis C. Davis.. Whom I respect and seek his knowledgable advice but.. What I'm seeing does look well in many eyes other than myself. I've received numerous emails and text messages from other members about the 4D and the latest developments and texts received lately are... WTH is Ellis doing?
I managed to read between the lines... Just in time...
I am so glad I cancelled my trip to Vegas and I will tell you... If I had gone, and see what has happened now that you have abandoned the 4D method, I'd be PISSED! Furthermore, this system developers John and Fiona have offered so much effort over the past 4 years and you promoted the 4D to the extent that it had been complete and yet you still have nothing and was unable to supply members with a shoe and with no actual "Live play experience by yourself nor offered at Vegas to prove it works" SHAME ON YOU!
The new Millino Dollar System IMHO does not deserve the associated name you are posting here. The only thing that is relevant is that you gave up on the 4D because you could not come up with a solid system to use therefore now the Million Dollar plan is a diversion to the 4D.
One more little tidbit.... I am one of the earlier members to this forum dated approx 2006 whereas I was given an honorary membership to the private forum yet I was not grandfathered to get the NOR Approach free as others did. I say no more about this. Heck! I was there on the telephone with Ellis when we came up with OTB4L !
I'm not saying that I disagree with the million Dollar plan.... 4D is not associated with it and therefore should not be named as.
4D IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE.
Not trying to get you upset Ellis, you're an intelligent person but lately, I'm disturbed of what I've seen on this forum. I think you are smarter than this.
CC
At least you didn't pay the tidy fee of 5g's just to find out that the 4D wasn't what it was purported to be.
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B ViC-torious knows you want to win the battle, you come best prepared to deal with every element of the battle.
He knows that having pen-and-paper, even those two-faced pens don't work so well, and having a barrage of info in front of you ( the tote board) will mislead as often as lead you to winning.
Just like the Casino Gift shop.
You think they would sell you those BJ " basic strategy cards" for a $1.00 they would " make sure" you win? ( did you buy enough of them to give one to everyone at the table? Did they agree to play just like the little card says?)
Or the cocktail waitresses
You think those drinks are " free" ?
BV wants you to win.
So do I.
We'll have to see anyone " understands" how all those charts can bring out the true dragon in us all.
Next movie about ancient hand-to hand combat war/battles/fights you watch, pay close attention to what's going on in all combatants' heads, their surroundings, etc. There is a lot written about how to win a battle, and beating Bac is not so far afield ...
Now, we can all read about the Big this, and the Cockroach that, charts and how they are " derived" from the P/ B sequence of events....and how they " predict" what they will " look like" after the next hand is finished.
There has to be more to it than that, doesn't there?
B-Victorious knows. Perhaps he is a hunter, perhaps he enjoys fishing, perhaps he is a well trained athlete.
Perhaps none of the above. But his willingness to participate in the conversation tells me a lot about him, just like I wish FOR ALL OF YOU to know " instinctively" what is going on in the minds of those playing with you, including your Casino.
This is not Back-to-Basics 101 that way2fast and pompanomike have so eloquently commented on.
This is Advantage Play.
And you want to adapt to preshuffled cards, 3-shoes-within-a-shoe switches from OTBL to F2 to S40M1, et al....
Likely you will want to know this stuff as well.
It is not about " teaching" it to you...it is about you understand all the psychology of what is going on around you while you play...
If you have not seen it, IT IS Coming to a tote board near you...
If you do not at least have a basic understanding of it, you will more than likely be " psyched out" by the fact only you are keeping a scorecard at the table, while the rest of the players are " glued-to-the-(tote)board"
Who said Baccarat, the casinos highest profit producing table game, was about a simple 50/50 coin flip?
Nobody on this forum...
You definitely have the gift of gab.
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Yes, I have read both posts before as referenced in BIgVic's links.
And I was hoping some of our Singapore, Malaysian, Macau private forum members might take a few minutes to explain to us all how they use this information ( if at all) to help them wager...
Anyone out there?
Ah I see you really weren't asking, you were just bating, trying to start yet another conversation with yourself. Which I see by your response to your own post, is already underway. Good.
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Please Please Please can someone explain what disparity is: an imbalance in recorded outcomes.
P vs B
O vs R
Runs vs singles
etc....
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What? I really have no idea what you're trying to say?
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Excellent questions!
I invented BaS40 long before I invented U1D2 or U1D1. So no one has ever experimented with those progs with BaS40. Perhaps we should.
What to do if you continuously lose your bets under your 3s? Well today that would be highly unlikely because today we would know whether to bet on or against the 3s. Back then we simply weren't that sophisticated yet. So I bet a 12358. The 8 only came up in 1 shoe out of the 40. I won the 8 and subsequenty won the shoe.
Ann BTW, that was the only shoe ever she didn't stick with me. She reasoned that the prior shoes had all been choppy so she bet that the 3s would stay 3. I should have listened. I hit +5. She hit about +20.
Right, back to back 3s would not be good no matter what But if you are betting that 3s stay 3, it becomes a minor hickup. And if you are playing M1 they become a good thing. See that?
Ellis, in your System40 manual, it states to use a U1D2 M2 progression.
Senior moment maybe?
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I think they are not asking for hundreds of shoes.. maybe just 1 or 2 shoes to start with.. would that be too much to ask?
One would think it wouldn't be. Hell, just 1 shoe, or even a partial made up shoe just to demonstrate the mechanics of the 4D.
Back in the day when the U2HiSAP was being taught there were example shoes. I remember that helped quite a lot.
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Perhaps he got beaten up at a casino after bragging about winning 100 shoes iar and then posting it for the world to see.
poor Oz.....
CC
OK sure, that sounds realistic.
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So when in Vegas for the seminar, did anyone actually play 4D in a casino for real? Do tell.
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Millionbac, You might as well spit into the wind. You're just going to have to spend a lot of time going through threads to find what you need.
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I think its pretty obvious by now that the powers that be here put the kibosh on this.
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Yesterday,
I told you I would give you THE TWIST by morning, and my morning ( here in the CENTRAL TIME ZONE) ends in 15 minutes
so lets get to the point, shall we?
Play whatever disparity you want, play forever, but play like this ( reminder: you picked the numbers 4 and 2, not me...)
(It's OK ,it will work no matter what, it just depends on how deep your bankroll is....)
Here is the TWIST.
Given everything I have said, from SAP counts, to bankroll, to not paying commission, to making the big $$, to posts/threads all the way back to 2010.
Its simple.
Using the numbers you selected.
WHENEVER THE PLAYER HITS 4-IN-A ROW ( note I said: Player)
AND THEN SWITCHES TO THE BANK ( note I said :Bank), and there is 2-IAR Bankers,
bet on Player.
1/1, 3/2, 5/3, 3/5 , it is all the same...( ELLIS will explain this to you...he explained it to me 4 years ago!)
If you WIN, CONGRATULATIONS!
If not, wait for the exact circumstances to repeat, and using U1D1 betting , bet again.
If you win, CONGRATULATIONS!
If not, wait for the exact same circumstances to repeat ( in our case 4 Players, followed by 2 Bankers, just so you do not have to pay commission)
Repeat as necessary
Excuse while I try and stop all that cricket chirping...anybody else hear that?
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You're talking to yourself again....
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Here you go Sam,
Example games: http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/s...?t=6665&page=2
Just take your time with learning play the shoes yourself and then play each shoe with each system to see how they compare.
also read this thread,http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7705 ( you will find them here aswell).
Hope this helps you.
First link to example games is a dead link 404.
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Played live Casino over 12 hours last week...still not all-in on the JustOneUnit/ Super Bet concept, but there is something I think will provide you a VISUAL AID to help confirm/ question 4D " decision making" process, and help you identify the BEST BET opportunities
Reminder I have been doing this for several years as a way to combine elements of NOR/ SAP with 3D approach...and last week bet real $$ using with 4D....played with another NOR member several shoes, and we achieved good results playing both NOR ( him) and 4D ( me)....
Always helpful to play with someone else attended the same school of BAC.
YES 4D does take more concentration and effort to record, but it definitely adds more insight into the TRENDS within the shoe, and thus better decision making.
Go back to the "Discussion of The 4D" thread...I explained it there...
Best I can offer is to try it by practicing with some of your old shoes...it comes easier once you can " SEE" how NOR and SAP are still alive and well within the 4D concept.
Also, reminder I posted about live play most people will feel more comfortable playing at full tables, as then plenty of time to record results and make decisions on where Best Bet Opportunities are within a shoe.
Did you ever post your "visual aid"?
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i have invested a lot of money in this bac club.i have been to vegas and i have purchased everything that ellis has developed.also been to sands clinic,gas alone cost me $150.today i looked below and noticed 92 members have read this thread.so why are there only 12 members signed up for saturday?your getting e.clifton davis for 4.5 hours @ $28.88 per hour.are you guys serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i made $1000 bucks @ the sands,if the rest of you out there are only making minimum wage or unemployed and can't afford $130 for this SATURDAY you should not be GAMBLING take your money to church on sunday and say a prayer for yourself! i hope only that those who attend get to read and post about it.i'm sick and tired of the free loaders!any questions.
One word....DECAF.
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So that would be a no then..... great.
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Just a shameless bump in hopes that this excel file will be available again soon. Thank you.
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Hi Ellis, Keith, and the rest.
Ellis my name is Shannon (i am a guy though haha) and I found your phone number some 15 years ago when I was living in Memphis. Keith I talked to you on the phone once when you were running the Blackjack 101 site, and you taught me the correct pronunciation of "baccarat" lol.
Anyway, Ellis agreed to meet me at Sam's Town in Tunica, and he told me I would recognize him because he would have his glasses on top of hi head (which he did) and would be at the baccarat tables. He was there with Thurstle his son-in-law. I had never seen the game played before in my life, and I was desperate to find a way to make some extra income (still am) and was always mystified by casino games since I was a kid.
I sat down beside Ellis, and watched the game happening, and I was watching how they bet and trying to figure out how to play the game. Ellis and Thurstle were playing $5 minimum bets as their base bet. Some of the bets got up there a bit (nothing shocking) and they were zig-zagging their bets on the scorecards sometimes. Well, in about 1 hours time, after a fairly small buy in, they both walked away with $350 dollars each AND got us ALL a meal comp ticket with drinks included at the Corky's BBQ restaurant in the casino.
I still don't play, and I have been wrestling with an alcohol abuse problem for the last 10 years, but i remember that day, as it gave me hope that a person can indeed Beat The Casino.
I remember Ann? Your better half at the time, nice lady. I remember a Lexus SC400 I think? that you looked at outside and said that you used to own one. Nice car.
Well my family I are still struggling financially, due to my addiction, but I still have that hope in me that I can be free, both physically and financially. Watching Ellis play gave me hope then, and that is the reason I am writing this. I hope this helps someone.
Peace, health, and blessings, Shannon.
Shannon,
Just wanted to offer you some encouragement. You can win against your addiction. I myself am a recovering addict, addicted to what I won't say, but know this; I have experienced that rationalizing inner voice that tries to convince us that its ok to do whatever this time. Don't listen to it. If you don't give up you can learn to tell that evil inner voice to leave you alone. And it will more and more. Good luck, you can do it.
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All,
Well, maybe not right away, but it's coming, bet on it.
Stadium type table games are basically a live dealer and a "stadium" of live betting terminals.
Think of it as a lot like those 8 station roulette machines you may see, but with "extra" seats.
How many? Well, there are currently 4000 or so stadium seats available in Macau and they are forecasting upwards of 6000 available player stations in the next 5 years.
Why "stadium" type of roulette, baccarat, sic-bo? Look to the MONEY, of course! At a normal 7 station baccarat table, you get 7 players against one shoe. At a stadium type of live baccarat table, you can have 50 players all on the same live shoe! It's a no brainer for the casino.
All that and the dealer's no longer have to handle any of the money as it's all done right at your personal terminal.
So, if you've been wondering what the direction of table games are, simply look to Macau and it should be obvious.
MVS (article summarized from the Macau Business Daily)
I don't think this will translate well to Vegas or back east casinos. Why? In Macau they have whole casino floors populated with nothing but baccarat tables, hundreds of tables in one casino and they fill every one. In Vegas most casinos have a handful of tables. I just don't see the demand. But in Macau it makes good sense for this type of system to get more players playing with less real estate.
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Somewhere Over The Rainbow
in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack
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Of course you remember what Dorothy and her friends discovered about the great and all powerful OZ after Toto pulled back the curtain, don't you?
His "powers" were all just smoke and mirrors. He wasn't a real wizard after all.