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great question...my guess is 45-50. I once did 36, but this was using 1,2,3 conservative betting.

Thanks Ellis, will this also be available via video download for purchase?

thanks Keith, sounds good, I appreciate it!!

bump...anyone care to help answer my question....?

Not sure in total, but I've sat out at least 5-6 hands in a row without an issue

Nemo, what do you think of the materials so far? Pretty powerful stuff, right?

But, after reading some of the commentary on S40M1....would one strategy for winning consistently be as simple as: Master S40M1. Next, find tables low in 2's (Ellis said that approx. 50% of shoes are low in 2s) Don't play any tables that are high in 2's, just search for these shoes that are low in 2s and play S40M1 Thoughts?

It seems like this question routed responses to talk about using partners. But, may not have addressed the original question....regarding only using OTB4L and S40M1, instead of all 4 NOR system and modes. Shouldn't mastering these two systems mentioned in his question below satisfy most shoes until we complete and master 4D??? question: Since S40M1 likes everything except TTs, and since OTB4L loves TTs; from a pure logic perspective, are these not really the only two systems necessary to win? I know that you talk about having many tools, but it would seem that these two tools cover virtually every possible situation. The key question would be when or if to change from one to the other within a shoe.

Nemo...not sure I understand completely...the affiliate program purchase are the same as direct purchases as far as I can tell. But, in short, if you buy the nor manual you will absolutely love it. You will start becoming one of the best players in the world (although it takes time). And yes, you'll have access to the forums where the best training is contained.

Short, sweet and to the point!

Looks good Keith!

I agree with the opinion is that the best method of learning is simply to buck up and pay for the private forum

This sounds like a perfect seminar. I will either join up and participate on the 30th or I will buy the video version if I can't make it. Thanks for doing this. I would like an alternative to BAC for certain casinos. I am hoping it is simple

Hi Gang, Thoughts?

I would like to learn this BJ method as well, to play when BAC tables are scarce. Is this the same method being taught on Nov. 30th? Also, generally speaking, is it easier to learn and put into action than NOR?? I want to spend the majority of my time mastering NOR, NOR+ and S40M1/4D But, I would love to learn this BJ method if it is quick to implement.

I like the idea of having more seminars, instructional courses...for example: NOR basics how to incorporate NOR + to your game 4D or S40M1

The recent developments in our forum is impressive and very encouraging. I'm a novice still and learning and utilizing the tools in NOR. Just to clarify, would it be correct to say that members should first begin by mastering the fundamentals of NOR? Next, learn NOR + Then 4D...which could be also considered NOR + + ?

I really think BetPhoenix offers legit games (live dealer) and they have no issues with US Players. With that said, I don't have a winning record yet with them. I was overzealous when I started with them

7779311, All good questions...IMO NOR is the best purchase u can make. It is comprehensive and the NOR + is free and easily downloaded in the members forum. Both are great manuals. With that said, as you'll quickly find out....the best advice is from the experienced members in the forum that you can access after you purchase NOR. I hope u dive in ! Good Luck

I am looking forward to the next live play session!! training, etc

Congrats on your NOR purchase!

I am learning NOR and doing ok so far...but, I am really thinking that it will be seminars, training, playing sessions with folks in this forum that will improve my skills the most

Thanks Ellis, I appreciate the quick response. I will try it out and be sure to give'm hell on behalf of our group !!

Hi Gang, Does anyone have any experience playing at the Hollywood Casino in St. Louis. Any insight, scoop, and/or advice would be appreciated. I've been there a couple times before, playing craps, before I was fortunate enough to have found our group. I see they have 4 BAC tables. 2 EZ Bac and 2 Dragon Bonus Bac tables. Thanks

Ellis I don't think I will be able to make this one. However, I really applaud your efforts doing this...I love the NOR system. I'm still learning and things are a work in progress. However, I have to say, I am profitable as a beginner. I'd love to join one of these events and I'm sure others would love playing along. It would be good to meet other players, we can learn from, and maybe team play one day. But most important, I would love to use sessions following you guys, as a live tutorial. Coming home with these scorecards will make learning faster as well.