MVSeahog Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) All, Well, maybe not right away, but it's coming, bet on it. Stadium type table games are basically a live dealer and a "stadium" of live betting terminals. Think of it as a lot like those 8 station roulette machines you may see, but with "extra" seats. How many? Well, there are currently 4000 or so stadium seats available in Macau and they are forecasting upwards of 6000 available player stations in the next 5 years. Why "stadium" type of roulette, baccarat, sic-bo? Look to the MONEY, of course! At a normal 7 station baccarat table, you get 7 players against one shoe. At a stadium type of live baccarat table, you can have 50 players all on the same live shoe! It's a no brainer for the casino. All that and the dealer's no longer have to handle any of the money as it's all done right at your personal terminal. So, if you've been wondering what the direction of table games are, simply look to Macau and it should be obvious. MVS (article summarized from the Macau Business Daily) Edited May 5, 2013 by MVSeahog Spull Chunker messed up again Quote What's an MVSeahog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm A Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 All, Well, maybe not right away, but it's coming, bet on it. Stadium type table games are basically a live dealer and a "stadium" of live betting terminals. Think of it as a lot like those 8 station roulette machines you may see, but with "extra" seats. How many? Well, there are currently 4000 or so stadium seats available in Macau and they are forecasting upwards of 6000 available player stations in the next 5 years. Why "stadium" type of roulette, baccarat, sic-bo? Look to the MONEY, of course! At a normal 7 station baccarat table, you get 7 players against one shoe. At a stadium type of live baccarat tabel, you can have 50 players all on the same live shoe! It's a no brainer for the casino. All that and the dealer's no longer have to handle any of the money as it's all done right at your personal terminal. So, if you've been wondering what the direction of table games are, simply look to Macau and it should be obvious. MVS (article summarized from the Macau Business Daily)What's next continues shuffle, no more 8 decks to a shoe, then we wont have to worry about pre shuffle shoes, or casino orchestration or red /blue cards or table selection, etc, etc. Holy shit Ellis what do we do now. LOL Quote Norm A FOLLOW THE SHOE WHEN IN DOUBT WAIT IT OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm A Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 What's next continues shuffle, no more 8 decks to a shoe, then we wont have to worry about pre shuffle shoes, or casino orchestration or red /blue cards or table selection, etc, etc. Holy shit Ellis what do we do now. LOLJust thinking about it instead of having Keno girls running around selling Keno cards we could have Bac girls selling Bac cards ( just fill out an 80 hand card for B or P or T and check to see if you later) Quote Norm A FOLLOW THE SHOE WHEN IN DOUBT WAIT IT OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVSeahog Posted May 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 What's next continues shuffle, no more 8 decks to a shoe, then we wont have to worry about pre shuffle shoes, or casino orchestration or red /blue cards or table selection, etc, etc. Holy shit Ellis what do we do now. LOLNormA, As I understand the way this is working now, they DO have the 8 decks, the shuffle and all that. What they don't have is the money handling. As everyone is playing the same shoe "in the stadium seating", then it's like having a table with 50 positions! They're still hand dealing the cards and playing the traditional game, they're just paying it off in a different manner! MVS Quote What's an MVSeahog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Well it's closer to the way Bac started in Vegas in the '80s with 24 player games. It will still depend on what kind of cards they use, how they are prepped and how they are shuffled.It's like the Casino Mgr at Paradise Island let slip when he thought I was a reporter for the Philadelphia Inquirer:"It's all in the shuffle". How true that turned out to be. The number of players makes no difference in Bac - only BJ.I wonder if anybody cuts the cards with this arrangement? I would think the temptation for the casino to use fixed cards in this arrangement would be overwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVic Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 All, Well, maybe not right away, but it's coming, bet on it. Stadium type table games are basically a live dealer and a "stadium" of live betting terminals. Think of it as a lot like those 8 station roulette machines you may see, but with "extra" seats. How many? Well, there are currently 4000 or so stadium seats available in Macau and they are forecasting upwards of 6000 available player stations in the next 5 years. Why "stadium" type of roulette, baccarat, sic-bo? Look to the MONEY, of course! At a normal 7 station baccarat table, you get 7 players against one shoe. At a stadium type of live baccarat table, you can have 50 players all on the same live shoe! It's a no brainer for the casino. All that and the dealer's no longer have to handle any of the money as it's all done right at your personal terminal. So, if you've been wondering what the direction of table games are, simply look to Macau and it should be obvious. MVS (article summarized from the Macau Business Daily)I don't think this will translate well to Vegas or back east casinos. Why? In Macau they have whole casino floors populated with nothing but baccarat tables, hundreds of tables in one casino and they fill every one. In Vegas most casinos have a handful of tables. I just don't see the demand. But in Macau it makes good sense for this type of system to get more players playing with less real estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVSeahog Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I don't think this will translate well to Vegas or back east casinos. Why? In Macau they have whole casino floors populated with nothing but baccarat tables, hundreds of tables in one casino and they fill every one. In Vegas most casinos have a handful of tables. I just don't see the demand. But in Macau it makes good sense for this type of system to get more players playing with less real estate.That's a very good point. The shear amount of players and tables in Macau is really something to see.The relatively small amount of players here might well be the reason it doesn't show up in the States anytime in the near future.MVS Quote What's an MVSeahog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aegis21 Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 All, Well, maybe not right away, but it's coming, bet on it. Stadium type table games are basically a live dealer and a "stadium" of live betting terminals. Think of it as a lot like those 8 station roulette machines you may see, but with "extra" seats. How many? Well, there are currently 4000 or so stadium seats available in Macau and they are forecasting upwards of 6000 available player stations in the next 5 years. Why "stadium" type of roulette, baccarat, sic-bo? Look to the MONEY, of course! At a normal 7 station baccarat table, you get 7 players against one shoe. At a stadium type of live baccarat table, you can have 50 players all on the same live shoe! It's a no brainer for the casino. All that and the dealer's no longer have to handle any of the money as it's all done right at your personal terminal. So, if you've been wondering what the direction of table games are, simply look to Macau and it should be obvious. MVS (article summarized from the Macau Business Daily)This no brainer for a casino, is for a casino that either doesn't have brains or knows it will win. Picture This - -I can imagine 6000 players, playing one game, and they have some winners and some losers like most casino floors have (ten losing tables 7players time 10 = 70 losers, and three winning tables 7 players times 3 tables = 21 winning players) Ok now the evening winds down and most games close except one, that stays open and players kill it! You standby and watch the total domination of the dealer take place and wished there were more seats! Ok, what happened? casino lost some money without other tables making it back. When casinos have several tables open they are actually hedging their bets, casinos have survived by not having all their eggs in one basket. If 6000 players get in sync with the game and start killing the casino, how will the casino survive? "All in...." is the term that comes to mind. Have you ever heard a casino say "all in"? Nope, just gamblers that eventually lose! Are the casinos that dumb, nope.... then they must know they can't lose, EVER! For that to happen, the game odds and standard deviation go out the cheating window. To know you are going to win, you have to have rigged the game! Just sayin............ Quote "If you don't think too good, don't think too much!!" ----------------------- John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVSeahog Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Guys, Perhaps I've managed to present this stadium concept incorrectly. They are not playing "one table and 5000 seats". The original message was meant to imply that there are approximately 5000 stadium seats available throughout the region, not in a single casino. Hopefully this clears up some misconceptions. I'm thinking what "might" show up around here is what we used to see in the old Keno lounges. Once game and a lot of seats/terminals to play at. Does that make more sense? MVS Quote What's an MVSeahog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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