ztomsk Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 I think it is safe to say that if a machine can put cards back into boxed card order, they can put the cards into any prescribed order by simply changing chips. So you are up against what I call Designer shoes. Some Bac expert sits there and designs supposedly impossible to beat shoes and then creates chips for the best 300 or so. This is nothing new. I used to have a pile of 300 or so such shoes. I went on retreat with this pile and worked on them for days at a desk on a balcony overlooking a golf course green, totally undisturbed. No, I didn't play any golf that trip.And I came up with something interesting: What do we know about such shoes? Well putting myself in the mind of the designer he's going to throw a little of everything at you. You will get straight runs on both sides with runs following runs, ZZ runs, TT runs, Opposites = to Repeats and P = to B plus sporadic 1's and 2s. The idea is to prevent you from getting a toe hold on anything consistent. The only consistency is inconsistency. I fear that all preshuffled are such shoes these days.What I came up with is sort of an F 4 kind of thing: I bet on the dominant side of the last 5 plays. This puts me on all straight runs either early or late. It keeps me on the same side for ZZ and TT runs and sporadic 1's and 2s.I bet U1D1 but down 2 on winning bets of 7 or more. I also went down 2 when I won every other bet. For instance if I lost a 5, won a 6, lost a 5 and won a 6, I went to 4. This was very effective in achieving my goal of getting down to 2. My stop win was any winning 2 bet in the 2nd half. I used a buy in, stop loss and stop win of 20 units. You need to be prepared for a real roller coaster ride.You guys might want to experiment on your own.But this worked about 90% of the time. Sooner or later you hit a run on the side you are on that gets you back down to a 2 bet. Usually. I played to a goal of +20.Hmm... I like this. At my casino, the shoes come pre-shuffled. But they are put into the machine shuffler before they are played. Sometimes the shoes are extremely biased, and sometimes they are extremely inconsistent (perhaps random or designed). But I also practice at home with an 8 deck shoe just to get the plays down/money management etc... it is obviously random since its been played over and over again both Bac and BJ without casino shuffling. But even that produces pretty clean biases at times. I got a +45 playing OTB4L on a "random" shoe (more than I've ever won in the casino). And it was only U1D2... could only image what it would have been if I bumped it up to U1D1M2.But back to my main point… what were your capture points with a 20 stop loss and stop win? Anything other than a getting back to a winning 2 bet in the second half? Like if you are close to +20, but don’t want to make a bet that would take you below a certain number of units? Or +15 or +10 for that matter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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