Users donchiasson Posted January 21, 2015 Users Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hi guys. I am new to this so be patient. I bought nor about three months ago, and have done OK with it. I don't get the eighty and ninety percent that some of you get, so I think I didn't get. Something. When should you enter a shoe, what should your bankroll be, and thanks to any one who can help me. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted January 21, 2015 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hey, DonALL of your questions have been discussed/debated right here in the forumI suggest you start looking at a few threads a day, and take note of which ones " answer" your questions...add those notes to your manual.Next, look at all the Utube videos Keith has put out there in cyberspace ( more tidbits)Your questions are very common ones, and they have been answered over-and-over on the NOR forum threads...At the same time, there are MANY POSSIBLE ( and profitable) ways to approach a shoe, a session, your bankroll, etc.etc--------it's going to take some time to find the right " fit" for you, so practice , practice, practice on the many, many shoes which have been posted on the forum ( before " practicing" with real $$$ in the casino)Personally, I find it very difficult to learn just by " reading" things...Ellis, Steve and Keith regularly sponsor training updates, webinars, etc. to get new members up to speed, and help those who might be struggling....Finally, you are always welcome to call me and I can point out a few things which might accelerate your learning curve...All the best, Kevin850-687-3128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mceight8 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Hey,I myself have not mastered these systems yet. Been at it a few months. I lost at Borgata about week/half ago and have been taking a break. In many of my cases I am forced to start shoes which is kind of discouraged by NOR and leaves you guessing. NOR like to see some patterns show up and your OR count to be established. After getting home and applying the rules without pressure, NOR beats every shoe I had, of course playing only the system of NOR. I also wrote down shoes on both sides of me. Even more interesting is NetBetting which really did not get until about this week, beats everyshoe I had/saw hands down. Its tedious to get used to. I actually only net bet the "net" and not both sides as is done here. At home its ok to bet both sides but in the casino it looks corny, even though, you are winning. Only thing is long streaks with NB and that can be fixed by just switching if the shoe looks streaky to an F system.Bank roll depends. We have $15 tables which are great starters. Resorts in Atlantic City even has $10 tables. But to play serious, need to be at $25 or more. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowise Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Hey,I myself have not mastered these systems yet. Been at it a few months. I lost at Borgata about week/half ago and have been taking a break. In many of my cases I am forced to start shoes which is kind of discouraged by NOR and leaves you guessing. NOR like to see some patterns show up and your OR count to be established. After getting home and applying the rules without pressure, NOR beats every shoe I had, of course playing only the system of NOR. I also wrote down shoes on both sides of me. Even more interesting is NetBetting which really did not get until about this week, beats everyshoe I had/saw hands down. Its tedious to get used to. I actually only net bet the "net" and not both sides as is done here. At home its ok to bet both sides but in the casino it looks corny, even though, you are winning. Only thing is long streaks with NB and that can be fixed by just switching if the shoe looks streaky to an F system.Bank roll depends. We have $15 tables which are great starters. Resorts in Atlantic City even has $10 tables. But to play serious, need to be at $25 or more. Good luckWhat do you mean by "beats everyshoe I had/saw hands down", is quite amazing. I've been playing NOR for 1.5 yrs, and I never had such amazing results. How did u do it ? May I know what mode u playing ? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users ECD Posted February 3, 2015 Users Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Hey,I myself have not mastered these systems yet. Been at it a few months. I lost at Borgata about week/half ago and have been taking a break. In many of my cases I am forced to start shoes which is kind of discouraged by NOR and leaves you guessing. NOR like to see some patterns show up and your OR count to be established. After getting home and applying the rules without pressure, NOR beats every shoe I had, of course playing only the system of NOR. I also wrote down shoes on both sides of me. Even more interesting is NetBetting which really did not get until about this week, beats everyshoe I had/saw hands down. Its tedious to get used to. I actually only net bet the "net" and not both sides as is done here. At home its ok to bet both sides but in the casino it looks corny, even though, you are winning. Only thing is long streaks with NB and that can be fixed by just switching if the shoe looks streaky to an F system.Bank roll depends. We have $15 tables which are great starters. Resorts in Atlantic City even has $10 tables. But to play serious, need to be at $25 or more. Good luckHey mate...Just quickly...it appears to me that you are missing the whole point of Netbetting if you were betting both sides. BTC definitely does not teach that.I humbly suggest that it would be better to take this discussion to the PRIVATE Forum where it has been discussed in great detail.CheersOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mceight8 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Yeh, i beat every shoe i had where i played then. But as I said, after i got home. As i said ihave to start the shoe most of the time. That means you don't know what nor strategy to apply. I started with s40 and lost. If i had started/knew with OTB4l i would have cleared 20 units on my first 2 shoes. So no, it does beat every shoe encounter d. Just that its exiting to see something work consistently in a place designed to take your mony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topstep1 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Yeh, i beat every shoe i had where i played then. But as I said, after i got home. As i said ihave to start the shoe most of the time. That means you don't know what nor strategy to apply. I started with s40 and lost. If i had started/knew with OTB4l i would have cleared 20 units on my first 2 shoes. So no, it does beat every shoe encounter d. Just that its exiting to see something work consistently in a place designed to take your mony.I will not start a shoe no matter what ! If nobody is playing yet be patient , they will start. I only wait for the best possible conditions at the table before I place a bet , and if nobody is playing sit back and relax ..... and chat with the dealer till someone comes along and start betting ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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