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Hey, Don

ALL of your questions have been discussed/debated right here in the forum

I suggest you start looking at a few threads a day, and take note of which ones " answer" your questions...add those notes to your manual.

Next, look at all the Utube videos Keith has put out there in cyberspace ( more tidbits)

Your questions are very common ones, and they have been answered over-and-over on the NOR forum threads...

At the same time, there are MANY POSSIBLE ( and profitable) ways to approach a shoe, a session, your bankroll, etc.etc

--------it's going to take some time to find the right " fit" for you, so practice , practice, practice on the many, many shoes which have been posted on the forum ( before " practicing" with real $$$ in the casino)

Personally, I find it very difficult to learn just by " reading" things...Ellis, Steve and Keith regularly sponsor training updates, webinars, etc. to get new members up to speed, and help those who might be struggling....

Finally, you are always welcome to call me and I can point out a few things which might accelerate your learning curve...

All the best,

Kevin

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Hey,

I myself have not mastered these systems yet. Been at it a few months. I lost at Borgata about week/half ago and have been taking a break. In many of my cases I am forced to start shoes which is kind of discouraged by NOR and leaves you guessing. NOR like to see some patterns show up and your OR count to be established.

After getting home and applying the rules without pressure, NOR beats every shoe I had, of course playing only the system of NOR. I also wrote down shoes on both sides of me. Even more interesting is NetBetting which really did not get until about this week, beats everyshoe I had/saw hands down. Its tedious to get used to. I actually only net bet the "net" and not both sides as is done here. At home its ok to bet both sides but in the casino it looks corny, even though, you are winning. Only thing is long streaks with NB and that can be fixed by just switching if the shoe looks streaky to an F system.

Bank roll depends. We have $15 tables which are great starters. Resorts in Atlantic City even has $10 tables. But to play serious, need to be at $25 or more.

Good luck

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Hey,

I myself have not mastered these systems yet. Been at it a few months. I lost at Borgata about week/half ago and have been taking a break. In many of my cases I am forced to start shoes which is kind of discouraged by NOR and leaves you guessing. NOR like to see some patterns show up and your OR count to be established.

After getting home and applying the rules without pressure, NOR beats every shoe I had, of course playing only the system of NOR. I also wrote down shoes on both sides of me. Even more interesting is NetBetting which really did not get until about this week, beats everyshoe I had/saw hands down. Its tedious to get used to. I actually only net bet the "net" and not both sides as is done here. At home its ok to bet both sides but in the casino it looks corny, even though, you are winning. Only thing is long streaks with NB and that can be fixed by just switching if the shoe looks streaky to an F system.

Bank roll depends. We have $15 tables which are great starters. Resorts in Atlantic City even has $10 tables. But to play serious, need to be at $25 or more.

Good luck

What do you mean by "beats everyshoe I had/saw hands down", is quite amazing. I've been playing NOR for 1.5 yrs, and I never had such amazing results. How did u do it ? May I know what mode u playing ? Thanks.

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Hey,

I myself have not mastered these systems yet. Been at it a few months. I lost at Borgata about week/half ago and have been taking a break. In many of my cases I am forced to start shoes which is kind of discouraged by NOR and leaves you guessing. NOR like to see some patterns show up and your OR count to be established.

After getting home and applying the rules without pressure, NOR beats every shoe I had, of course playing only the system of NOR. I also wrote down shoes on both sides of me. Even more interesting is NetBetting which really did not get until about this week, beats everyshoe I had/saw hands down. Its tedious to get used to. I actually only net bet the "net" and not both sides as is done here. At home its ok to bet both sides but in the casino it looks corny, even though, you are winning. Only thing is long streaks with NB and that can be fixed by just switching if the shoe looks streaky to an F system.

Bank roll depends. We have $15 tables which are great starters. Resorts in Atlantic City even has $10 tables. But to play serious, need to be at $25 or more.

Good luck

Hey mate...Just quickly...it appears to me that you are missing the whole point of Netbetting if you were betting both sides. BTC definitely does not teach that.

I humbly suggest that it would be better to take this discussion to the PRIVATE Forum where it has been discussed in great detail.

Cheers

Oz

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Yeh, i beat every shoe i had where i played then. But as I said, after i got home. As i said ihave to start the shoe most of the time. That means you don't know what nor strategy to apply. I started with s40 and lost. If i had started/knew with OTB4l i would have cleared 20 units on my first 2 shoes. So no, it does beat every shoe encounter d. Just that its exiting to see something work consistently in a place designed to take your mony.

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Yeh, i beat every shoe i had where i played then. But as I said, after i got home. As i said ihave to start the shoe most of the time. That means you don't know what nor strategy to apply. I started with s40 and lost. If i had started/knew with OTB4l i would have cleared 20 units on my first 2 shoes. So no, it does beat every shoe encounter d. Just that its exiting to see something work consistently in a place designed to take your mony.

I will not start a shoe no matter what ! If nobody is playing yet be patient , they will start. I only wait for the best possible conditions at the table before I place a bet , and if nobody is playing sit back and relax ..... :redface: and chat with the dealer till someone comes along and start betting ...

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