Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted April 28, 2015 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 I just might have experienced my last visit to the one of my favorite casinos...Luck can only take a person so far, and my luck may have run out.Attended a seminar tonite at The Orleans, but went on a casino hunt beforehand...Kind of like the old TV show Sea Hunt, but no Lloyd Bridges, and the fish can seem bigger sitting at the table...( Sea Hunt,not JAWS...)Been wanting to do this for a long, long time, and tonite was the night...only had a few hours to spend before heading off to The Orleans, so thought I'd give it a try.I am in no way suggesting you try this, and I always wish for you to gamble responsibly and with the " cheat sheet" ( aka " rules") Ellis espouses...So while I have wagered larger amounts on a single hand, and even larger on various sports bets over 30 years of gaming ( never liked Nintendo or Game Boy...Pong is more my style), tonite I did something I always wanted to do...I bet $1,000 on the first hand I played...with every intention to " walk away" if I lost...Well I did not lose that hand. After 2 hands in the shoe, it was BBSo I was down $ 50 in commission, having played the second hand in the shoe after the first one was a Banker...So, why not bet the $2,000 on the next hand? Not a smart bet...But I figured OTBL just might be the play, and it won, so now there were $4,000 in chips laying in front of me... And $ 50 in commission I still owed....BBP so far....always wanted to do this, so I rolled the dice and bet Player again...like I was thinking, OTBL...It won.Now there's $8,000 in chips laying there...and that $50 in B commission I could not get out of my head...Table max was $10,000... And BBPP history of the shoe...I decided " WTF"?And bet it all...all $8,000, on BankerAnd won.Now the commission , another $400 was really messing with me...and $16,000? After only 4 bets...But table max is table max.So, before I could think too much about it, I swiped all $ 16,000 off the table...And promptly put $ 10,000 back on Banker.Dealer yells" table Max!!", and won't pull the cards...Until the floor manager/ Pit boss comes over...asks me for my ID, and I hand her my Players Card.Not good enough...No, my real ID ( aka drivers license)She OK's the bet, and Here I am, nervous Nellie, but knowing I already won a good sum, less that pesky commission, leave my bet up.Player has a 7. Bank has a 2.I stand up, ready to leave for the Orleans, and B draws a 6.More commission piling up in front of me...just a few inches from $20,000 on the B circle...Shoulda' woulda' coulda' left right there, so I ask the Dealer what she thinks the next hand will be...So far, BBPPBB...and of course she says Player...So I dutifully remove my $20 large, take $10 off the top and bet.And I bet Banker. Played NOR a long time...it suggested a P bet, but that last b8 got me to thinking to bet another B...P draws a K-2, B a Q-6. Player has to draw, and does... It's a 10 card.Banker wins.I don't think I've ever paid that much commission in so short a period of time...in fact I know I have'nt...Pit Boss is standing beside me by now, and I stand up and color-up post-haste, and she is doing her best Pit-Bull imitation as the Dealer counts out the chips...She didn't seem happy, although the dealer seemed to appreciate the $500 tip...And that is when my troubles began, and why I will likely never be going back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOU30 Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Well,we'll...Come on Kevin!!! Ha reminds me of Annie Wilkes in Misery(Kathy Bates) I can't wait for the next instalment.I do hope you followed the shoe! Or your shoes and walked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOU30 Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Ha,ha a great story and a nice nights work(short night)...So far anyway...Thanks Kevin. Edited April 28, 2015 by LOU30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterP Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi kachatz1,Curious to know what happened after? What trouble could have occurred? I can only think that the fun is only beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I just might have experienced my last visit to the one of my favorite casinos...Luck can only take a person so far, and my luck may have run out.Attended a seminar tonite at The Orleans, but went on a casino hunt beforehand...Kind of like the old TV show Sea Hunt, but no Lloyd Bridges, and the fish can seem bigger sitting at the table...( Sea Hunt,not JAWS...)Been wanting to do this for a long, long time, and tonite was the night...only had a few hours to spend before heading off to The Orleans, so thought I'd give it a try.I am in no way suggesting you try this, and I always wish for you to gamble responsibly and with the " cheat sheet" ( aka " rules") Ellis espouses...So while I have wagered larger amounts on a single hand, and even larger on various sports bets over 30 years of gaming ( never liked Nintendo or Game Boy...Pong is more my style), tonite I did something I always wanted to do...I bet $1,000 on the first hand I played...with every intention to " walk away" if I lost...Well I did not lose that hand. After 2 hands in the shoe, it was BBSo I was down $ 50 in commission, having played the second hand in the shoe after the first one was a Banker...So, why not bet the $2,000 on the next hand? Not a smart bet...But I figured OTBL just might be the play, and it won, so now there were $4,000 in chips laying in front of me... And $ 50 in commission I still owed....BBP so far....always wanted to do this, so I rolled the dice and bet Player again...like I was thinking, OTBL...It won.Now there's $8,000 in chips laying there...and that $50 in B commission I could not get out of my head...Table max was $10,000... And BBPP history of the shoe...I decided " WTF"?And bet it all...all $8,000, on BankerAnd won.Now the commission , another $400 was really messing with me...and $16,000? After only 4 bets...But table max is table max.So, before I could think too much about it, I swiped all $ 16,000 off the table...And promptly put $ 10,000 back on Banker.Dealer yells" table Max!!", and won't pull the cards...Until the floor manager/ Pit boss comes over...asks me for my ID, and I hand her my Players Card.Not good enough...No, my real ID ( aka drivers license)She OK's the bet, and Here I am, nervous Nellie, but knowing I already won a good sum, less that pesky commission, leave my bet up.Player has a 7. Bank has a 2.I stand up, ready to leave for the Orleans, and B draws a 6.More commission piling up in front of me...just a few inches from $20,000 on the B circle...Shoulda' woulda' coulda' left right there, so I ask the Dealer what she thinks the next hand will be...So far, BBPPBB...and of course she says Player...So I dutifully remove my $20 large, take $10 off the top and bet.And I bet Banker. Played NOR a long time...it suggested a P bet, but that last b8 got me to thinking to bet another B...P draws a K-2, B a Q-6. Player has to draw, and does... It's a 10 card.Banker wins.I don't think I've ever paid that much commission in so short a period of time...in fact I know I have'nt...Pit Boss is standing beside me by now, and I stand up and color-up post-haste, and she is doing her best Pit-Bull imitation as the Dealer counts out the chips...She didn't seem happy, although the dealer seemed to appreciate the $500 tip...And that is when my troubles began, and why I will likely never be going back...Colored up, cashed out, signed the forms and left the casino.Yeah, it took me almost 30 minutes to cash out, not so unusual...( but in the interest of my own wish to remain " under the radar", the casino remaining unnamed on this forum), and when the Cage called " upstairs", they were instructed to call " ThePit" to verify that I had actually won all the chips there, that day...in other words, had been there , at the table, and wonNot trying to conceal chips, willing to take the entire win, sign the forms and get out ( Title 31, blah, blah, blah)...because, at least at that point I was thinking I'd return another day and play my regular 4D, like I always do ( except last night...)Cashier finally offered me a check.I insisted on cash.Meanwhile, the PitBoss and Dealer had supposedly " gone on break"Long story short, I got my $$, but took me about 4 times as long as playing six hands had taken...On the way out, I walked back past the table...It had been shut down, I guessed " closed for the evening" (?)I had no intention of " giving back" , anyways...just wondering...and all dressed up in suit and tie, which was the first time in over a year, ( hey, it's Vegas!), I headed to my meeting...at another Casino....Which is where Lady Luck decided she needed a piece of me...Somehow, It must have pre-ordained that I would just have to find out "the hard way "( and I'm not talking about a visit to the Craps table...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modnar Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 That story make a point about Ellis being right when he always is saying: Casinos are your enemy, they will treat you nicely, give comps,etc etc , only IF you lose like everybody else. Once you become a consistent winner, they want you out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users ECD Posted April 30, 2015 Users Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hey Kevin, congrats on the solid win. I am really surprised you had such an issue at the cage for only $16k. Haven't seen this at any Vegas casino that offers table games -- not even the small off-strip properties. Where was this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted May 1, 2015 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Colored up, cashed out, signed the forms and left the casino.Yeah, it took me almost 30 minutes to cash out, not so unusual...( but in the interest of my own wish to remain " under the radar", the casino remaining unnamed on this forum), and when the Cage called " upstairs", they were instructed to call " ThePit" to verify that I had actually won all the chips there, that day...in other words, had been there , at the table, and wonNot trying to conceal chips, willing to take the entire win, sign the forms and get out ( Title 31, blah, blah, blah)...because, at least at that point I was thinking I'd return another day and play my regular 4D, like I always do ( except last night...)Cashier finally offered me a check.I insisted on cash.Meanwhile, the PitBoss and Dealer had supposedly " gone on break"Long story short, I got my $$, but took me about 4 times as long as playing six hands had taken...On the way out, I walked back past the table...It had been shut down, I guessed " closed for the evening" (?)I had no intention of " giving back" , anyways...just wondering...and all dressed up in suit and tie, which was the first time in over a year, ( hey, it's Vegas!), I headed to my meeting...at another Casino....Which is where Lady Luck decided she needed a piece of me...Somehow, It must have pre-ordained that I would just have to find out "the hard way "( and I'm not talking about a visit to the Craps table...)So...well the win was far more than 16, and the Casino I do not think smart to name on this forum...as for the Cage issue, it was really no big deal, just understand I have both FL and NV ID's...and this was NOT a major strip casino...So anyways, all dressed up and ready to go, I drive over to The Orleans, thinking I am meeting a few individuals on behalf of the person who asked me to evaluate what he and his wife thought to be " an incredible business opportunity"...since they are both realtors, I figured it was about Real Estate, but They wanted me to hear the pitch, rather than tell me what it was...So I get there, meet up with them, and we proceed to one of The Orleans ballrooms.Where there were over 1,000 people in the room!I'll spare you the drama of the 3 hour ordeal...it was a pitch for AmWay!!!!!!!Yikes!There I am, a pocket bulging with cash, and Out of respect for this individual and his wife, I sit there for 3 hours...and it wasn't until after 2 hours into the presentation that the speakers even divulged what it was...So I reasoned that while the night produced an incredible Baccarat Win, I should have known that Lady Luck was gonna get me sooner or later...Oh, I'll probably go back to the casino where I won the $$, I like it too much since there is almost never anyone else plays there...And W2F is right, in the scheme of things, the money won is not so big,...But how I won? And " why" I won?Well that has a lot to do with this Forum...and having played so many shoes, I have long since lost count...I guess all's well that ends well...( if you believe their really was a Shakespeare...wonder if he ever played Baccarat?...probably not...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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