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Hi,

I want to share my progression that i use to play bac daily. No gimmick, it's absolute free.

I use only 10u daily. If i lose, then i stop 4 the day and watch DVD

It is a pos prog combined with a little neg prog

1. 1 ( -1 / +3 )
2. 1 ( -2 / +2 )
3. 1 ( -3 / +1 )
4. 2 ( -5 / +3 )
5. 2 ( -7 / +1 )
6. 3 ( -10 / +2 )

6 levels. everytime you win, double up the next bet.

let us see lvl 1. if i win 2 bets in a row, i get +3. if lose, -1 then i proceed to lvl 2

win 2 in a row, i get a total of +2. but if i lose again then my total loss is -2

and so on. i create this progression because it suits my needs.

low BR, relax, and powerful in my opinion.

so that is folks. use it with your own bet selection. if anyone of you can make this better, tell me please. iam willing to listen.

usually i divide my br to 10. ex : $10,000 / 10 = 1000 / u.

everytime i win, i always raise my betting unit. for ex if the br from 10k becomes 15k, then i can bet 1500.

because it is 10u only, it can go up fast. when i play iam targetting the br becomes triple. 10k becomes 30k, then use the 10k - let it ride. my record was my br became 8 times in a day. lucky day.

remember 1 shoe only 1 cycle. if i average it, the per shoe average +2. it sounds not not not much but remember you can increase the bet unit on the next shoe.

if anyone want to comment negative, feel free to do it. like i said before, it is my gameplay. it will not suit to everyone. iam just sharing.

 

 

 

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Do you really want me to play some shoes, Mr. Vince? to be honest, my bet selection sucks. hehehe. only my progression that is good ( in my opinion )

actually ppl can use the progression to whatever system they use Mr. Vince.

i just created it so it will suit my needs. i want to play with small small Br.

i have tried so many progression. u name it. low martingale to the extreme martingale. at the end, lose everything. am i correct, guys?

but with my progression, if in a day i fail, i can say, "damn, what the fu.." but still can smile. because it is 10u only.

it is your call Mr. vince. you want to see it, no prob at all.

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Long story, but this is now a forum  where you get access to all the different systems, and can talk to and learn from the best players.

Come join us. It will be your best investment ever.

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On 1/19/2017 at 9:45 AM, baccon said:

Do you really want me to play some shoes, Mr. Vince? to be honest, my bet selection sucks. hehehe. only my progression that is good ( in my opinion )

actually ppl can use the progression to whatever system they use Mr. Vince.

i just created it so it will suit my needs. i want to play with small small Br.

i have tried so many progression. u name it. low martingale to the extreme martingale. at the end, lose everything. am i correct, guys?

but with my progression, if in a day i fail, i can say, "damn, what the fu.." but still can smile. because it is 10u only.

it is your call Mr. vince. you want to see it, no prob at all.

Baccon,

I have learned the hard way but progressions like that or Martingale suck.  The only progression that I think works is the 221 that is all over this forum.  If you play high stakes I would suggest playing 1/U1.5 with a win.  Just a suggestion.  

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the continuation...

MM aka Money Management

Let's say 1000 BR

1st shoe : 1200 ( +2u )

2nd shoe : 1440 ( +2u )

3rd shoe : 1720 ( +2u )

4th shoe : 2060 ( +2u )

As you can see on the 4th shoe the BR becomes twice. 100% profit. 8 units only for doubling the money with the risk of 10u. You calculate the risk reward ratio by yourself. 4 shoes estimated 1.5 hours in my online casino. 4 shoes are enough for me. the more i play i become stressful. i want to play relax on daily basis.

what happen next? i take some to buy pizza and add 20% for the next day. so tomorrow will start with 1100 :P

Cheers...

 

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21 hours ago, McVince said:

Baccon,

I have learned the hard way but progressions like that or Martingale suck.  The only progression that I think works is the 221 that is all over this forum.  If you play high stakes I would suggest playing 1/U1.5 with a win.  Just a suggestion.  

Vince.....believe the 221.....is what Keith and friends use in the past to beat roulette and than bac...???

Keith had an online seminar couple years back to teach it..........?

It can quickly get out of hand and end up making large bets ? Fabonacci I believe ? Spelling may be wrong ...

Thanks........correct me if I'm wrong................

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3 hours ago, johnnycs1 said:

Vince.....believe the 221.....is what Keith and friends use in the past to beat roulette and than bac...???

Keith had an online seminar couple years back to teach it..........?

It can quickly get out of hand and end up making large bets ? Fabonacci I believe ? Spelling may be wrong ...

Thanks........correct me if I'm wrong................

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Bet selection is king

221 is pretty robust especially if you know how to handle it like member TG does (break down the sequences and keep unit size minimal during rough times)

But nothing will handle poor bet selection coupled with a bad streak.

 

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On 1/21/2017 at 8:37 AM, johnnycs1 said:

Vince.....believe the 221.....is what Keith and friends use in the past to beat roulette and than bac...???

Keith had an online seminar couple years back to teach it..........?

It can quickly get out of hand and end up making large bets ? Fabonacci I believe ? Spelling may be wrong ...

Thanks........correct me if I'm wrong................

JUST REMEMBERED....THAT 221 PROGRESSION IS LAB AND NOT A FAB !!

GETTING OLD..........LOL...........BUT AT LEAST I FINALLY REMEMBERED THE CORRECT NAME...only took me a couple days !! lol

johnny

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this is the enhance mode / advance mode / pro mode or whatever you wish to call it

I name it NSHG system ( Not So Holy Grail )

Skip 2 levels from the original one. So basically i play with 5u only!

because i eliminate 2 levels, it will become faster. 2 shoes ( 4units won ) already double the BR

Now let's direct this to weekly result

1 week 7 days. 1 day 5u. so 35 total bankroll

the power...

if you win only 2 days and lose the remaining 5 days, you still break even!

1 day only play 4 shoes ( 1 hour )

let's assume you win 3 days out of 7, your profit is 46%. that is way too much that bank interest. if you win 7 out of 7, that means jackpot!

This the best progression for me. i only stake 5u daily. even i win only 2 days and i lose the remaining 5 days, break even.

this is as far as i can share to you. i never publish this anywhere. only in here. if you use it, remember the name

NSHG - Not So Holy Grail

 

cheers all,

 

 

 

 

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ok let's continue...

if you have good patience, you can go for sniper mode. that means you eliminate 4 levels above. only play 2 lvls ( 2&3 )

What are the differences then?

Same BR ( 5u only )

1 day play 3 shoes

The original one - win 2 out of 7 ( break even )

Sniper mode - win 1 out of 7 ( that means i lose 6 days in a week. very2 bad luck. but the result is superb. you still come ahead a fantastic +560% profit. almost 6 times from your daily bankroll

So, let's check for the monthly result. i win 4 days only, lose 24 damn bad days but still come ahead a shocking 2240%

only with NSHG, you can say to ppl : yes i lose 6 days in a week! Lol!

 

Cheers

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, baccon said:

ok let's continue...

if you have good patience, you can go for sniper mode. that means you eliminate 4 levels above. only play 2 lvls ( 2&3 )

What are the differences then?

Same BR ( 5u only )

1 day play 3 shoes

The original one - win 2 out of 7 ( break even )

Sniper mode - win 1 out of 7 ( that means i lose 6 days in a week. very2 bad luck. but the result is superb. you still come ahead a fantastic +560% profit. almost 6 times from your daily bankroll

So, let's check for the monthly result. i win 4 days only, lose 24 damn bad days but still come ahead a shocking 2240%

only with NSHG, you can say to ppl : yes i lose 6 days in a week! Lol!

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Does anyone understand this ............or is it just me ? Cause I DON'T GET IT ? LOL

johnny/albuquerque

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On 1/21/2017 at 10:37 AM, johnnycs1 said:

Vince.....believe the 221.....is what Keith and friends use in the past to beat roulette and than bac...???

Keith had an online seminar couple years back to teach it..........?

It can quickly get out of hand and end up making large bets ? Fabonacci I believe ? Spelling may be wrong ...

Thanks........correct me if I'm wrong................

You are right.  221 can get out of hand.  It can be played with a scaled back win goals and also adding a stop loss as well.   I use a 111 with a declining win expectation as the shoe goes on with a -6 stop loss.  When you do this you mix conservative with aggressive.  It always keeps you in the game.

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On 2/5/2017 at 2:03 PM, johnnycs1 said:

THANKS VINCE ! ALWAYS HELPFUL !

Is your modified 221 a good approach to Brendan Mendoza's PBOR METHOD ?

Thanks McVince ....have a great day !!

johnny/albuquerque

Johnny,

I looked at PBOR and it is not for me.  Just as VInSAP is not for everyone.  This is not to say it isn't a great way to play because it is.  You can use the 221/111 in anything.  As a suggestion, I think 1 bet and only 1 bet for each group would be good win or lose start a new chart.  I think the odds are well in your favor that you can do well with PBOR.   

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