Users Phelps83 Posted February 21, 2018 Users Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 First and foremost this is my first post in the forums. Myself and a friend have been working on beating baccarat for about a year (we did take a break for quite a while over last summer so honestly we have only been at it at the tables for 5 or 6 months). So lets start from the beginning, when it comes to casino games we had mainly been poker players. Then about 5 years ago we finally had casinos approved in our state . We remained poker players for a while but both of us worked jobs and did not rely on poker as a main source of poker. I think we both had burned our selves out at poker after years of playing and eventually stated to play pit games(craps, BJ ext...). Obviously we were both losers at the games overall. The one day he had mentioned playing baccarat, i had never played it before and did not know how the game worked, all i remember from the first session was how i thought it was stupid that when i bet the banker i would literally get paid with quarters(because of the 5 percent commission). So he originally brought the idea of what if we played baccarat and just bet the drop, we use the terms drop and chop, i believe it is referred to on here as 1's and 2's. So a chop would be 1, drop would be 2. I had played a couple times and started winning right away, my unit size was 25 and i was averaging 5 or 6 unit wins each session. I proceeded to win 15 out of my first 16 sessions, and the one loss was only a couple units. I have been around long enough to know that you just do go on win streaks like that at the casino, so i felt like we were really on to something. Also i pretty much flat betting, if i did press it was after a win not a loss. During that run i was on my friend was also experiencing similar results. Then i made the mistake of playing on a day where i did not feel very good and as i said, i work full time so you can understand i was burning the candle at both ends, but i wanted to know if this was a legit income source. So anyway i went on a day that i should not have and had a big loss, i got stubborn and stayed way to long, then went back a day or two later and had a similar loss. That's where the long break came in because i was discouraged. So we have been back at it for a couple months now, i tested a few different strategy's with terrible results, then i finally went back to the strategy we first used because it was working and i am back on an upswing, i do not know why i tried messing with a strategy that worked. That being said it is not a perfect strategy. Relying solely on drops or twos can get you in trouble at times. So lately we have both been using the drop as our guideline but we follow the shoe a bit more now. The question we are really asking ourselves is what is an acceptable loss and how many units should the average win be. I think the win goal should be around 3 to 6 units, the problem is one big loss could erase several wins. Also, lately if i get up 3 units real quick, like winning the first 3 hands, i play till i lose one hand then leave. So if i lose the next hand i leave up two units. The reason i do that is too many times i got up a few units right away, kept playing and found myself going on a big downswing and stuck there for hours, i am sure we all know that feeling. Also, do you need to stay and go for big wins sometimes to offset potential big losses. I feel like this is where the game is won and lost, you can create any strat you want but your bet is essentially always gonna be 50/50, so we have to work on what we can actually control. Anyway, any thoughts would be appreciated and i will keep everyone updated with our progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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