brad01

good points. I cant disagree

This is why I never have used SAP much because it can be misleading Better follow he current events and the current bias MC and LC is the past count and no guarantee of current or future bets It has a lag But some people can make it work

Crown Perth has built 'The Baccarat Room' which is a semi high limits room with quite a few bacc tables Also they are opening up a Stadium setup with live bacc, roulette, and sic bo where you can play all from the same screen It was supposed to be going today for our public holiday but the pit boss reckons Wednesday. Everything there is pretty modern now since James Packer bought it he has revamped the whole thing and put heaps of $$ into it Played some 4D red black on rapid roulette and SS bias kicked ass.

Could be totally dependant on the shoes you play or experience but I can say for me I appear to get similar results to what CT said Its a great suggestion by Ct to break down short common series and record outcomes

Some great hints and ideas there CT I took a look at your 221 trigger last night and it won 2 of 3 in the shoe I was playing with an opposite 2 of 3 = 66.6% Close to your recorded 70% average

BB RRR B R B R B R B R R Next 3 results for sample number 3 opposite trend was correct in the short term

And I actually heard that Norm used to play and win at roulette as well......

Hi there trillion I believe you will not find much difference playing even money roulette than playing bacc The same principles apply And that goes for all 50/50 games I believe I am trying to convert Oz and I think he may just be interested For my analysis of this short sequence the 23 is an OTBL section but without knowing what was before it which I don't its hard to say whether it was OTBL or Red SS as you say Moving forward though the S40 / Opposite trend is pretty clear and I don't believe there is any other choice but to go with that I would also bet black looking at this from an outside point of view I will post the next 3 results in the sequence tomorrow

Result was black black ss Sample #3 roulette red black: BB RRR B R B R B R what was next results or what would you bet?

Hi guys all casinos that feed off of the VIG feed from Costa Rica have a new screen format and they have also cut down the time between hands by about 10 seconds or so This has affected me a little as I was using 4D counts and I now cannot record and analyse all of them like I could before Maybe I will speed up or otherwise I will just have to play without the counts as per NOR bias at hand.

all I will say at this point is I doubt you will find much difference playing even money roulette as compared to bacc - you may even find It easier On a European wheel red and black alternate around the wheel so its a pure 50 / 50 random all around the wheel High and low the same Odd and even do not alternate around the wheel - there are OO's and EE's at points around the wheel Doubt it really makes much difference though I will post result tomorrow

Sample #2 Roulette Red Black: BB R BBB R BBBB R That's what the tote board showed Betting Red / Black anyone have any thoughts?

I'm from Perth which is on the West Coast but the casino here is not too bad Its Crown Perth owned by James Packer I also like Crown Melbourne its bigger and pretty good I have been to Oz's playground Star City Sydney but to be honest I didn't think that much of it - its pretty old and needs an upgrade I think but I didn't spend a lot of time there so Oz might see it differently. I was at Jupiters Gold Coast a few weeks ago and I loved it. Live tables, rapid tables, min $5 max $30k When I was there the trends were really good during the day and much better than Perth Its also a beachside location with lots of accommodation and good transport. I seriously want to move there in the near future - I recommend it especially as a tourist.

Hi well the next 2 results were BB - 2 bankers Unfortunately I did not go past that point because my aim was to win 1 or 2 units before I had to start work. The next one I may use a roulette tote board to predict the next result with red / black A lot of pure bacc players may be interested to see the similarities and in fact many times roulette biases are easier to pick and win with in my opinion I have never lost a session of hit and run roulette where I cruise the tables look at a tote board and make a decision based on that which is why I titled this HIT AND RUN Hey I might even be able to convince Oz to start playing roulette!

Good to have a visual of it as it makes it clearer to see and as you would see it live I will leave it until this evening (my time) and then post result All comments are welcome and the point is not to be wrong or right but more so the reasoning behind what you think A no bet can be a valid bet if you feel that's best too

You need to focus on the rules a little more it is confusing at first but ALWAYS BET REPEATS - SAME AS LAST DECISION ONLY TIME YOU BET OPPOSITE IS WHEN YOU LOSE UNDER A CONFIRMED 1 OR UNDER A CON FIRMED 1,2 OTHERWISE ALL BETS ARE REPEAT - FOLLOW LAST RESULT)

Thanks for the replies and thoughts Possibly a screen shot of the shoe would help in this exercise as just events sometimes make it harder to visualise I will do that later

Yes it does not matter a loss or a win what matters is that we learn by this process and we get some insights into how people think about decisions etc

Hi guys I have this idea that I will post a partial shoe and then members can try and predict the next hand based on shoe history The next day I will post the result and also whether I won or lost People can discuss what they think the result will be and the reasoning behind it Other members can do the same thing This will be a great way to get other players thoughts and insights into decisions Here is the first one: B21121231611312142611214 (unconfirmed 4 - banker) Well my thoughts on the next decision is bankers outweigh players by 4 so bankers are slightly stronger Also there are a few long runs already with 2 x 6iar and one of those was a banker run So I know long runs are possible - however if you look at the average length of events it is about 4iar and we are at an unconfirmed 4iar so possible this run could end at 4 BUT the current bias in the shoe is banker SS as far as I am concerned due to the 1's on the player side and the banker multiples - 1214 To me its in the favour of a BANKER based on previous history of long runs and current bias of banker SS I bet banker - was I correct? I will post result tomorrow Lets call this Sample #1 Feel free to comment on this and if anyone wants to add a sample then speak up and you can do so tomorrow when I post the results to this. That way we present 1 per day and discuss it and then the next day post the result and present a new one. Lets run it like this Any comments regarding thoughts on Sample #1 is welcome. Thanks

I believe RD1 stands for Repeat Down 1 - bet repeats unless you lose under a 1 or a 1,2 and then bet straight down In other words bet opposite Bet straight down refers to the score sheet - when you lose to an opposite and you bet straight down you are betting opposite last result

You will

Only thing missing is kachatz and his twisted humour! Hope he will drop in sooner or later!

You have to join When you join for a monthly fee you get access to everything including 4D / 5D 4D / 5D works well

There is a 5D manual in the downloads section I believe 5D is 4D + MDB+ But generally they are the same thing as MDB+ bets are only used if they coincide with 4D counts which is not all that often 4D works well