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O/E O represents ODD and E represents EVEN. I have received comments in the past, that ODD and EVEN are for roulette. No doubt that is absolutely true. And yet, the "perspective" of odd and even can also be applied to baccarat decisions in a another valid manner. The basis....1,3,5,7,9,11, etc are odd numbers. 2,4,6,8,10 etc are even numbers. Using ODD and EVEN in a baccarat shoe. The 1st hand in a shoe, is always NEITHER ODD or EVEN. I don't want to go into the concepts of a "Closed Universe and Open Universe" here, regarding the start of a shoe. So, for this, just simply accept that the 1st hand of the shoe is neither odd or even. ONLY THE SECOND HAND IN THE SHOE.....becomes ODD OR EVEN....and then continues throughout the entire shoe. With the preceding in mind.....and the 1st hand of the shoe being player. The second hand of the shoe is a banker for example. That SECOND HAND would be an ODD. Now, let's say the 1st hand again was a player, and the second hand of the shoe is also a player. That second player becomes a EVEN. Review.....1st hand...is player.......2nd hand is banker......banker is a ODD.....because it is a 1. Review......1st hand is player......2nd hand is player.....player is a EVEN because it is a 2. Now......this is where it can be easily confused....if not clearly understood, how ODD and EVEN continues in a shoe. Example.....1st hand is player......second hand is banker......banker is a ODD. THIRD hand is a banker and it becomes a EVEN. (2) PLACE CLOSE ATTENTION NOW......fourth hand is a player....and becomes a EVEN. Why? ANYTIME.....ONE SIDE ENDS on a 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 etc (EVEN) and goes to the other side AFTER A EVEN it is also a EVEN. You might need to re--read this several times to understand this concept. Also, use a spread sheet to visually see that. Regarding now ODD. 1st hand is player....second hand is banker...Banker is now an ODD. Third hand is a player making player a ODD. Why......ANYTIME A SIDE ENDS on a 1,3,5,7,9,11, etc and goes to the other side.....it is a ODD. So let's say there are 3 bankers in a row...and the next decision goes to player.....the last banker is a ODD (3) and the next hand on player is ALSO A ODD. Again to understand this you may have to re-read this several times, and also use a spread sheet to visually see that. I fully understand it can be a different way than what you might be used to. Just remember that this is also another "perspective" in charting a shoe. I must add that is a valid perspective, just as M1/M2 is.

M1/M2 This is a valid perspective to use. I can certainly understand a person might consider it otherwise, until they understand the way it is designed, and what it does and doesn't do. Originally, everything in recorded as M1 was done with a red pen, and M2 a blue pen. I chose to simplify that on the spread sheet for M1 in the color red, and leaving M2 in black. It was done strictly as a "visual aid". First off, even if you don't understand how M1/M2 is charted...the spread sheet will do that for you automatically. Here is the instructions on how M1/M2 is charted. On the very first hand of the hand...it is neither M1 nor M2. It is ONLY after the 1st hand, that M1 is the first to be charted. M1 goes OPPOSITE of the 1st hand in the shoe ALWAYS. Let's say the 1st hand is a player. Then, M1 would be charted on BANKER. So let's say Banker was the second hand of the shoe.....the second hand would then be a M1. Now for example....let's say player is the 1st of the shoe....M1 is to be charted on banker....BUT....the second hand of the shoe is also a player. M1 did not come in......so the M1 chart would still be blank. M1 then goes to player on the 3rd hand. SIMPLY....for M1....it goes OPPOSITE THE 1st hand of the shoe and then continues THROUGH THE ENTIRE SHOE in a zig-zag manner regardless of the decision of player or banker. So for this example......player was the 1st hand......M1 on the second goes to banker....then player, then banker, then player......for the rest of the shoe. M2 ALWAYS starts after the 2nd hand of the shoe. So player was the 1st hand, and banker was the second hand. M2 ALWAYS goes OPPOSITE OF M1 through the entire shoe in the same zig zag manner. I understand this may be confusing at first until you see and understand how it works. So, just get the spread sheet and enter some player and banker decisions and you will see....that M2 ALWAYS goes opposite where M1 is designated. Remember....M2 does not start until the 3rd hand of the shoe, and goes opposite of M1. Once you see how M1/M2 is charted and you understand it......you will see another "interesting perspective" in charting a shoe, and it is a valid one.

PB, OR, OTB/TBL Most everyone should know what these columns represent, and if not, then of course please ask. So I don't need to elaborate further on this.

Using the spread sheet. Notice from left to right on the spread sheet. 1. The first column is for the creation of the spread sheet....numbering the cells and you don't need to do anything with it, so just leave it as it is. 2. Next column Hand...has already been filled in to help you with your hand designation numbers, for your reference use. 3. Next column Bet.....You will enter P OR B....and you do that in CAPS or in lower case for what your decision on the bet you are making. Even if you are designating your bet on the data of another column, it must be reflected in terms of P or B, accordingly. 4. Next column U.....means unit. You can leave it blank and it is automatically set for a 1 unit bet. If you want to bet more than 1 unit....you will need to enter that number in the U column. 5. Next column.....is BLANK. Accordingly to where you place the bet and the unit or units....it will automatically add or deduct your running bet total. 6. Next column.....ACTUAL OUTCOME. This is what decision actually took place in the shoe......so you enter a P or B......UPPER or LOWER case, either will work. The result of that decision and all subsequent entries, will automatically be added to the rest of the columns. 7. You will notice after the O/E column there is a traditional Sap chart for your reference and it is automatically counted for you. 8. Next you will notice a WIN......LOSE.....and % column that will automatically figure your number of wins, losses, and percentage. 9. The next columns are not to be changed as they deal strictly with the programming of the spread sheet. 10. At the bottom left of the spread, you will see the tabs, analyzer, info, drop down list, and graphs. The analyzer is the portion of the spread that you will use to record the hands of the shoe. The info tab is simply for any notes you want to enter to remember. The drop down list is not to be written in. And if you like line graphs of the shoe, you will find them in that tab. 11. Please make a copy of the spread sheet to file away, and then make working copies of the spread sheet to use. It is easy to make a mistake in the entries, and sometimes corrupt the spread sheet through making errors. By making copies of the spread sheet and KEEPING the original in a safe place, if you corrupt a spread sheet.....you will always have a non-corrupted spread sheet to use.

Numbering viewpoint on the spread sheet. You will notice (example Player Banker chart and the other charts also) in number the decisions...after either side loses, the next time that decision side comes on in, it comes in as a 1 to possibly help in being able to see how many on each side goes to, regarding 1s, 2s, 3s, and more in a row. You will also notice there is a "overall count" for each column, (player banker for example) that gives you a viewpoint of there being a strong side, weak side, or running close to neutral.

I have been wanting to share this for awhile, but I wasn't able to due to home improvement repairs and and unexpected transmission rebuild on my car. Now, that I am able to share this, there are several points to make clear from the very beginning. 1. I did not create any of the columns and must give credit to others who did. 10 years ago, I simply complied them together. I had no knowledge at the time that there was anything that was called 5D, so for the sake of communication I will call it that, and include "another perspective". 2. After using this "data" for several thousand shoes, I certainly understand it will not be to everyones liking. Nor should it be. At casino speed, it has be practiced diligently to be able to chart without mistakes. For an entire month I timed myself with a stop watch, on every single hand, and was able to chart it consistently with no mistakes in 5-7 seconds for each hand. Then of course, you need the time to "read" each column, and know how they interact with each other, and select what and why you will bet on. I will suggest that with the spread sheet, and the speed that it provides, it is good to use in online play, even though I personally believe online play is only good for practice. Online play is not regulated, and with "electronic glitches" of live streaming, internet disconnections, and lack of knowledgeable dealers that make constant mistakes, with little to no supervision, and a host of other reasons too numerous to mention. 3. Since I am merely sharing this, I won't be teaching it, as you can use the data from the score sheet to determine on your own what strategy, approach you want to use. Most everyone here already knows what PB, OR, OTB/TBL is. The additional perspectives of M1/M2 and O/E, I will clearly explain. 4. For the spread sheet included, I did not create it. The credit for it goes to someone else, who wants to remain anonymous, simply due to the amount of the work the individual does in making a living. 5. You can do this as you want, and use any or several of the columns as you want to. Example....you may like using PB, M1, M2, and OE. You may like using PB, OTB/TBL, M1/M2. Simply you can make it into a 2D, 3D, 4D, etc using what you like and you feel is the most effective for you. 6. I will ask, that you do not share this in the public forum, simply because this is for MEMBERS of BTC, and as my contribution to BTC in gratitude for everyone and for Keith who has kept BTC alive and for the direction that he has chosen to take it. 7. There will be several posts that I will continue on here, and I apologize in advance, that I do not have the knowledge nor skills to put it in a pdf format, or instructional book form. If someone does have the knowledge and skills to do so, please feel free to do so and post it accordingly. 5D v8.xlsx

Wash, rinse, and repeat. Dam, now I gotta do my laundry.....lol

Great post Kevin.....thank you. I am definitely planning towards the 1st of the New Year to get out on the "meet up with other BTC members" trail. Had a couple of personal property issues to take care of for a temporary setback. No doubt working together and sharing in the "brain workshop" helps each other become more effective in the "earnings workshop".

For what it's worth, I have not been as active here in the last couple of weeks due to having to replace the transmission in my car. It's a expensive and time consuming project, that I did not plan for.

Oz, I certainly understand being kicked in the teeth and gutted at the same time. Still, I do ask from my heart......please stay here. I don't think I am assuming too much by saying you are highly regarded and truly appreciated here by everyone. Rick

Thank you Keith for sharing them. I am certain not all shoes are like that, and at the same time....it does provide insight regarding that type of shuffle in what it can and does produce at times. Very consistent in streaks and chops in both shoes, with some OTB4L included in your second shoe shared. Congrats on your earnings.

Great post Keith, thank you. I have seen shoes like that when they were hand shuffled. Which is why I asked previously about what type of shuffle was used at The Palms.

Thanks Mike for sharing, and congrats to you also on your earnings and thank you also the updates about STP.

Thank you Keith for the trip report, and congrats on your earnings. Would love to hear/read/learn of way2fast in what he looks for, and certainly respect his choice not to. It was somewhat uncanny, regarding the dealer you met. It would be interesting to hear what he based his answer upon to you in how the cards are shuffled, regarding the repeating shoes.

Machine......a lot of great information for you regarding Sap in the following post, from one of the highest esteemed and beloved members on BTC.

Welcome aboard Machine.........

Thank you XDotNet....truly it was your suggestion that went straight to my heart. It was a perfect suggestion on your part, to not only honor the name and memory of Norm, but to also benefit someone through a random act of kindness. You "planted the perfect seed" in me. Let me explain a little bit and I think you will understand even more why your suggestion hit home with me. For the most part, when I see a "natural disaster tragedy", like a tornado devastating an area, or a cyclone or hurricane, or flood, or earthquake, for some reason unknown to me I immediately feel very strongly that I want to go and help those people in any way that I can. It wouldn't matter to me what I do, I just want to go and help them in their time of loss and need. Of course that requires finances to be able to travel where ever that happens. It has always been a motivation to me in the possibility that earning the means to do so, through baccarat would be the vehicle to do help to do that. Yes I have to take care of me first, as no one can give to someone what they don't have. Still my needs I have made as simplistic as possible. Example of that would be I am an enthusiast for the tiny home concepts. Needs met and living as simplistic as possible, along with being debt free. I could go on about it.....but I am also aware of time being very precious for everyone. Thank you again XDotNet......and like Pando and I discussed several times.....you never know how it will positively affect someone in what you share until you do.

I was thinking....."it isn't how you start......it's how you finish"

Congrats to Pando and brad on their wins.

Thank you Brad, and it was XdotNet that gave me the inspiration, so give him all the credit. And I will never forget when I came back here, that you were the first person to welcome me back. Friendliness like yours, is something that is very valuable to me, and I do not take it for granted, so thank you always.

Her car....had the same nasty green mold on it and needed a good cleaning and detail. I had to borrow a neighbors carport, as it was raining a bit today. Washed, polished and put a mirror shine glaze finish on it, and then waxed it. Headlight covers made of plastic get deteriorated like hers in Florida due to uv rays of the sun. Not safe to drive at night with them, especially at her age, so I restored them to almost new. She also leaves her windows open and the inside needed a good cleaning. She promised she would close her windows from now on. Random act of kindness done.....in memory of Norm, and again all the credit goes to XDotNet for his great suggestion. So now back to the really hard work.....baccarat.

The roof had quite a few small tree limbs from the storm on it, and there were a few small holes in the roof that needed to be patched. And the roof needed a cleaning and also to have two coats or elastomeric with silicone in it to help seal any leaks, and also help reflect the uv rays of the sun.

The are the after pictures......much better. But still a nasty scratch on the front from a tree limb that scraped it from the recent storm.

I didn't want to interrupt the follow the shoe thread anymore, so I thought to share XDotNets great suggestion of "I just thought, if you do share Norms information, those who benefit from it could do a random act of kindness to honor Norms contribution to the game and post it here". So I give all the credit to XDotNet for his great suggestion. So the last two days I did that, in cleaning and detailing a 5th wheel mobile home for a 76 yr. old widow that lives on social security. I did not charge one penny for this, did all the work by myself in memory of Norm. The woman this was done for was very grateful. So, I will post a few pictures, and yes I am exhausted, but it was so worth it. Her entire home on the outside looked nasty so I am including the before pictures here.....and the after pictures next post.