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Why was the NOR+ thread locked?

Danielsan, Any rational person would agree with what you say but you might as well be barking up at the moon for the good it will do. This is Ellis's business. He makes his livelihood selling his gambling systems which are based in no short part on his theory of the casino orchestration, ie cheating that must go on because after all people lose don't they? He gives hope to losing gamblers by promising them that their losing wasn't their fault but the cheating casinos. Not that I completely agree or disagree with Ellis on this point, but by arguing about it on his forum you are basically just wasting your time. I hope you can see that.

And judging by the lack of moderation response I guess that's permitted here. Sort of hypocritical but oh well.

Asking for a copy written system without paying for it. And you're a NOR member, I don't get it.

I think you might of missed my point. The law of large numbers GUARANTEES that there will be biases and oddities in the short term. I thought that was obvious and was trying to point that out to our OP.

You need to google "the law of large numbers".Just because bank wins 51% of the time doesn't mean the numbers of bank vs player decisions will be anywhere near even or close to each other. Let me explain. Take 100 hands of baccarat. And say bank does win 51% of the hands. So you have 51 hands to bank and 49 to player. Try 10 million hands of baccarat. 5.1 million hands to bank and 4.9 million hands to player. That's a difference of two hundred thousand hands. The more shoes you play the closer the banker/player percentages will approach their true odds, while at the same time the wider the gulf in terms of decisions between them.

Why would you do that?

First rule, never play RNG baccarat. We only play live dealer online baccarat around here. Go away troll.

Steve, you mentioned that NOR members that attended the clinic would be getting an email or PM from you containing additional NOR info that wasn't available yet at the time of the clinic. Just so I don't miss it, do you have an idea when you can get that out to us? And thanks for the MODE 3 explanations, it helped a lot.

Steve, you are a cheerful guy who loves this game. Thank you for answering all of our questions and explaining the modes so well. That was extremely helpful.

Update. I was able to speak to Steve just now and was encouraged by what he wanted to cover in the clinic. The "why" and how to see it as it unfolds seems paramount. Perfect for me. Admittedly NOR hasn't been my number 1 system to use but I might be more comfortable using it after this clinic.

Thanks Ellis. I googled the mans name and yes he does wear many hats. His normal is probably very busy.

Well 2 phone messages for 2 days no reply, lol. He probably isn't checking because there was little response to this thread at the start maybe? Or God forbid something happened to the guy? I guess now I would just like to find out if this clinic is still on at all, it looks like I potentially could be the only one there if I sign up so maybe Steve would be kind of flexible with what the clinic would be about based on my experience with NOR?

Well 2 phone messages for 2 days no reply, lol. He probably isn't checking because there was little response to this thread at the start maybe? Or God forbid something happened to the guy? I guess now I would just like to find out if this clinic is still on at all, it looks like I potentially could be the only one there if I sign up so maybe Steve would be kind of flexible with what the clinic would be about based on my experience with NOR?

I left a message on his answering service. I guess I'll call again today. I just need a little more information before I can decide if its something I should attend.

Does ANYBODY have any information on the NOR clinic for LA?

Steve, could you please explain what you'll be teaching at the "New NOR Baccarat Seminar in Los Angeles" on Sat Oct 13? Is it a more of an beginner seminar for those that just signed up for NOR or more of an advanced NOR seminar? Thanks.

No I think Ellis is saying there is no point to team play in baccarat. Doesn't matter what "aggressive progression" you come up with, you can net bet it all. It can be reduced down to one bet on the table.

A "continuous" shuffle machine does exactly what its name says it does. It contentiously shuffles the cards. Its up to the dealer how often the spent cards from previous hands get put back into the machine to shuffle up with the rest of the cards but I've seen them put back cards after every hand (or round) or every few hands. Bottom line there is no defined shoe of cards anymore with a continuous shuffle machine. And in my opinion completely destroys both blackjack and baccarat as closed shoe games. Please refuse to play those where ever you find them.

So is the webinar going to be recorded and be given to the participants or not?

How did the test training go? Were you able to record the session Keith?

That's a good idea. Maybe you could do a quick free 15 minute intro meeting so both you and the rest of us could test the whole thing out. After that test then you would know if your recording worked or not. What do you think about that? Of course the sooner you could do that the better. It might make people's mind up as well for the full meeting.

Keith, Does the seminar price of $99.95 dollars include a recorded copy of the meeting with both video and audio? Only the gotomeeting organizer can record the meeting. But once you do, you can make it available to the attendees for later viewing. Was that the plan? (BTW, believe or not I have no problem paying for this, as long as I can view a recording of it later. What say you?)

Thanks for the reply jrhelp007. Maybe you didn't notice but I am a NOR member here at BTC. So I already know what Ellis teaches. Even with what Ellis teaches it still doesn't explain why you appear to be so nervous when betting. I suppose we all are when we first start out, of course winning has alot to do with calming the nerves. Keep up the good work. Always good to hear of people winning at the casinos. When you start to implement the negative progressions that's taught in the NOR manual, please leave a trip report about that as well. Thank you.