UK, London: Live Shoe Data

[PeterUK]

Greetings!

For those who may be interested...

I gathered some Live shoe data from 'The Casino at the Empire', London, United Kingdom (http://www.thecasinolsq.com/)

UK-Casino-at-the-Empire-Shoes.xls

Notice the long streaks in some of the games!

Regards,

Peter

One of The Tables:

[Guest]

Hey Peter, I note their table glaringly says ties pay 9 to 1. That's going to be pretty

expensive for them to fix should you point out to them that ties pay 8 to 1 not 9 to 1.

They can't count the chip that you bet as part of the payout. It was your chip - not theirs.

A cute little casino hussle! I notice everything! Hard to trust a casino after THAT!

[PeterUK]

I think they play by Punto Banco Rules here and they do 9 to 1 ties and other variations of tie bets... to cater for the Asian group...

http://www.thecasinolsq.com/casino-game-details/punto-banco

Interesting seeing people betting/wagering loads of money in the £100+s or even £1000+s without using any noticeable system with a score card and etc... don't think I would ever do that! Knowing what I know from here... ;-)

Peter

[ECD]

I think they play by Punto Banco Rules here and they do 9 to 1 ties and other variations of tie bets... to cater for the Asian group...

http://www.thecasinolsq.com/casino-game-details/punto-banco

Interesting seeing people betting/wagering loads of money in the £100+s or even £1000+s without using any noticeable system with a score card and etc... don't think I would ever do that! Knowing what I know from here... ;-)

Peter

I agree totally...I found it mind boggling when I witnessed it first hand... and the number of players betting big dollars on "Ties" leaves me shaking my head...might as well go flush your money down a toilet

Oz

[Norm A]

I think they play by Punto Banco Rules here and they do 9 to 1 ties and other variations of tie bets... to cater for the Asian group...

http://www.thecasinolsq.com/casino-game-details/punto-banco

Interesting seeing people betting/wagering loads of money in the £100+s or even £1000+s without using any noticeable system with a score card and etc... don't think I would ever do that! Knowing what I know from here... ;-)

Peter

Hi Peter

I find it very interesting that they do not have a European roulette wheel with a single zero.

I assume being in the heart of London that this is a tourist casino and you won't find many local Roulette Players playing at this casino with a 00 wheel.

Is it still the same as I remember from years ago that you must join the club in order to enter the casino ?

Here is a funny story from a few years back in Vegas.

I was playing at a single zero wheel when a young man came up to the table and started to play.

When he realized that he was at a single zero wheel he cashed in his chips and

said it was not fair for them to remove the 00 from the wheel.

The dealer and I could not stop laughing for 10 minutes.

It is no wonder how the casinos make so much money with dumb players like that.

NormA

[PeterUK]

Hi Peter

I find it very interesting that they do not have a European roulette wheel with a single zero.

I assume being in the heart of London that this is a tourist casino and you won't find many local Roulette Players playing at this casino with a 00 wheel.

Is it still the same as I remember from years ago that you must join the club in order to enter the casino ?

Here is a funny story from a few years back in Vegas.

I was playing at a single zero wheel when a young man came up to the table and started to play.

When he realized that he was at a single zero wheel he cashed in his chips and

said it was not fair for them to remove the 00 from the wheel.

The dealer and I could not stop laughing for 10 minutes.

It is no wonder how the casinos make so much money with dumb players like that.

NormA

Hi Norm,

I think they do have '0' Roulette Tables in London Casinos... No, I don't think you have to be a member to enter the casino for small wagers... not the ones I've been to recently around Leicester Square... but to wager large amounts of money the Pit Bosses will ask for your membership card... probably to prevent money laundering...

Only if that guy knew that a Single '0' Roulette table reduces the house advantage... and increases his chances of winning a bit... he could have stayed ;-)

Peter

[Norm A]

Hi Norm,

I think they do have '0' Roulette Tables in London Casinos... No, I don't think you have to be a member to enter the casino for small wagers... not the ones I've been to recently around Leicester Square... but to wager large amounts of money the Pit Bosses will ask for your membership card... probably to prevent money laundering...

Only if that guy knew that a Single '0' Roulette table reduces the house advantage... and increases his chances of winning a bit... he could have stayed ;-)

Peter

I was referring only to the casino that you put a link to, as they only show 00 wheel on their web site.

I am aware that most of the casinos throughout Europe have single zero wheels.

It just seems strange that this casino did not.

[PeterUK]

I was referring only to the casino that you put a link to, as they only show 00 wheel on their web site.

I am aware that most of the casinos throughout Europe have single zero wheels.

It just seems strange that this casino did not.

I think the casino named it wrong... It should be called 'European Roulette' it's website states "The principle of American Roulette is easy: the Dealer spins a ball around the rim of a revolving wheel which is divided into 37 equal compartments clearly numbered 0 to 36"

0 to 36 is European Roulette... and has 37 numbers... American Roulette has 38 numbers including double zero... even looking at the Video... it looks like a European Roulette Table... wonder why they got that wrong?

Peter

[Norm A]

I think the casino named it wrong... It should be called 'European Roulette' it's website states "The principle of American Roulette is easy: the Dealer spins a ball around the rim of a revolving wheel which is divided into 37 equal compartments clearly numbered 0 to 36"

0 to 36 is European Roulette... and has 37 numbers... American Roulette has 38 numbers including double zero... even looking at the Video... it looks like a European Roulette Table... wonder why they got that wrong?

Peter

Thanks Peter for the clarification I thought it was a strange.

[wolfat]

English roulette or "fairoulette" is single 0 but similar to american roulette

European roulette or "french roulette" has a bigger table and different layout with 3 employees to manage the bets