gman72 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Since this is a purely mechanical system, it would be great to have an excel spreadsheet simulator/analyzer to run a lot of shoes for testing.I wish my excel skills were better, but I only know the basics and not all the macros/more complex formulas I think it would take.I saw back around the end of last year that PeterUK had created a 4D simulator/analyzer in excel. I wonder if anyone has done something similar for MDB or knows if anyone else has.Anyone with the excel skills willing to give it a try? I'd be willing to help out if there is something I can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quizzical1 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Since this is a purely mechanical system, it would be great to have an excel spreadsheet simulator/analyzer to run a lot of shoes for testing.I wish my excel skills were better, but I only know the basics and not all the macros/more complex formulas I think it would take.I saw back around the end of last year that PeterUK had created a 4D simulator/analyzer in excel. I wonder if anyone has done something similar for MDB or knows if anyone else has.Anyone with the excel skills willing to give it a try? I'd be willing to help out if there is something I can do.I agree 100%, but unfortunately am not well versed in Excel macros either.... Quote Regards,Glenn"Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine per cent perspiration...do your homework" Thomas A. Edison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I agree 100%, but unfortunately am not well versed in Excel macros either....We have others who are. I've held them off until we got the rules straight and I think we are there now.I'll work on the rules thread. Hopefully that will catch their attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3bet Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 We have others who are. I've held them off until we got the rules straight and I think we are there now.I'll work on the rules thread. Hopefully that will catch their attention.Yes Master,Your are the Boss and we are at your disposal waiting for your instructions.AYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Yes Master,Your are the Boss and we are at your disposal waiting for your instructions.AYSSee that? Ask and you shall receive. aysuen, I will post hard rules on an MDB rules thread to give you something concrete to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcash2002 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Given that we have some solid rules now for MDB, and we have a mechanical system to play, I am wondering if we can design a Analyzer that can be used in real-time when playing Live Casino Online Bac? We would have a solid tool to use that eliminates some of the player error that we could use to play nearly perfectly while playing online. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Given that we have some solid rules now for MDB, and we have a mechanical system to play, I am wondering if we can design a Analyzer that can be used in real-time when playing Live Casino Online Bac? We would have a solid tool to use that eliminates some of the player error that we could use to play nearly perfectly while playing online. Thoughts?Yes, I'm sure aysuen is working on it. Thanks aysuen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3bet Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Yes, I'm sure aysuen is working on it. Thanks aysuen!Dear All,Sorry for the delays. I just want to let you know that I am indeed working on the programming of this simulator. I am just a busy man with a full time business to operate as well as playing at casino often. I will try to post something before Monday.Good Luck to everybody.AYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3bet Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Dear All,I am ready for my first posting. Here is the program and please read this entire posting before use. This is not yet a fully completed version. I am saving the final combined betting until after enough members have tried out this first version MDB Auto Betting Program with modification and suggestions necessary. Then my wish is to perform a poll of opinions on how should we combine our betting of all different Progs (S1,S23,S4+ and SAP or more to be added) into one straight and robust winning prog. Please try out the program and let me know how you like it and or have it modify to perfect it.Programming Notes:Programming conventions (Important, must follow to understand how program place bets):1. When a betting entry is MINUS (-) betting is on BANKER.2. When a betting entry is PLUS (+) betting is on PLAYER.3. If a bet wins highlight is RED, if a bet lose highlight is BLUE.4. When you copy and paste any data into Column B, please make sure you paste it with the “Paste Value†option.Program Prog selection Switches:1. At Columnn Y Row 2, there is a program switch set up highlighted with RED fill. You may set this value for varies program play option:(a) Switch value = 1: Only S1 and SAP will play( Switch value = 2: Only S23 and SAP will play© Switch value = 4: Only S4+ and SAP will play(d) Switch value = 7: Auto switch between S1, s23 and s4+ with SAP played(e) Switch value = 8: Only SAP will play (f) Switch value = 9: All Progs S1, S23, S4+ and SAP will playProgramming defaults:1. SAP count does not include first event.2. Betting starts as soon as play #3 for all S1, S23 and S4+.3. SAP does not start betting until after 6 plays.4. SAP posting is immediate as soon as 4s or plus is confirmed. This means 4s+ event will establish and enter into SAP table as soon as 4s emerges.5. First version of program will bet 5s+ stays on 1st appearance. Subsequent betting will rely on previous streak length. All 7s or above continue to 1 lose.Programming Definitions:1. When system switches to S23, there will be at least 2 bets played before any further switching. This is because S23 is really designed as a 2 or more bets system.2. 1s high means SAP1 > max(SAP2,SAP3,SAP4) – S4M3 is played with SW=4. 3. 1s becomes high means [(current SAP1 > last SAP1) and (SAP1 = max(SAP2,SAP3,SAP4)] –> S1 is played with SW=1. 4. 2s high means SAP2 > max(SAP1,SAP3,SAP4) –> S23 is played with SW=2. 5. 2s becomes high means [(current SAP2 > last SAP2) and (SAP2 = max(SAP1,SAP3,SAP4)] –> S23 is played with SW=2. 6. 3s high means SAP3 > max(SAP1,SAP2,SAP4) –> S23 is played with SW=2. 7. 3s becomes high means [(current SAP3 > last SAP3) and (SAP3 = max(SAP1,SAP2,SAP4)] –> S23 is played with SW=2. 8. Ellis Notes – Once S23, mode 2 or 2 plays must be made before any further system switching is allowed. Meaning SAP1 has not bumped up by 2 and at the same time SAP4 has not been increased.9. 4s high means SAP3 > max(SAP1,SAP2,SAP3) – S4+ is played with SW=4. 10. 4s becomes high means AND [OR((current SAP4 > last SAP4),cSAP>=4),(SAP4 = max(SAP1,SAP2,SAP3)] –> S4+ is played with SW=4. 11. When 1s and 2s are tied –> S1 is played with SW=1.12. When 1s and 3s are tied –> S1 is played with SW=1.13. When 2s and 3s are tied with none of them being zero –> S23 is played with SW=2.14. When 1s and 4s+ are tied -> S4+ is played with SW=4.15. When 3s and 4s+ are tied -> S4+ is played with SW=4.So please play with it and have fun!Very Best Regards,AYSMDB_Auto_V1P.xlsx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3bet Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Dear Ellis,Now that we have our Version 1 simulator playing S1, S23, S4+ guided by SAP. I am carrying on to prepare my Version 2 of this simulator. During the programming period, I could really feel that it is rather different when you are playing mechanically instead of realtime human interaction.As a result, our conventional secondary betting methods as well as OTR handling may need a review. My suggestion is that our secondary bets and OTR handling may be set up as another independent betting prog within spread sheet also guide by SAP. Our final bet placement will then be the result of amalgamating all different Progs together to become the best betting decision placement with the highest winning possibility.As such we must again defined clear rules for the MDB Mechanical Betting Engine. In order to make a start here are my suggestions for your follow up corrections:1. S1, S23 and S4 bets placement will follow prior rules and guided by SAP up to Current Event 3s (Column Ce=3).2. If 1s is lowest or at LC we bet 1s will go 2s (S23 played).3. If 2s is at lowest or at LC, we bet 2s will go to 3s (S4+ played).4. When 2s is highest or at MC with neither 3s nor 4s is non-zero, we bet 2s will always stay 2s except after 3 or more (up to 7) sporadic 2s that we bet 2s will continue to 3s.5. When 2s is neither LC or MC, we bet there will be no 4 2s before there is a 3s. S4+ secondary betting rules will be used.6. When 4 consecutive 2s, 3s or 4s are clustered follow by an unconfirmed 1s, we bet there will be no 5th consecutive 2s/3s/4s clustering element and that our unconfirmed 1s will stay 1s (this is a one time bet).7. When 3s is zero we bet 3s will always go 4s.8. When 3s is non-zero and is smaller than 4s+, we bet there is no 3 3s before there is a 4s using our S1 secondary betting rule.9. When 3s is highest or at MC with NO 4s/+, we bet 3s will always stay 3s.10. When 3s occurs and is neither LC nor MC, S23 play rules will apply meaning S23 bet 2 will be placed.11. When 4s occurs, rules for S23 secondary bet will follow.12. The rest of 5s/+ OTR rules will follow per prior betting rules.Take notice that the above are only a reflection of my own personal observations. Please do not follow them unless after Ellis would verify and correct them.Very Best Regards,AYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3bet Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Dear All,While I am trying to carry on the Simulator by combining progs into one final MDB betting progs, I have encountered problems that the resulting prog may not perform well after switching. If we take a look at the attached sample, both S1 and S4+ would achieve the +5 goal but the resulting prog will not.Can somebody point us where may we improve or correct such situation?By the way, I have tested all the sample shoes attached with Version 1 simulator. With of the 38 shoes attached plus GMAN sample shoe, 14 out of the 39 testes will achieve +5 goal.Very Best Regards,AYSMDB_Auto_V2.pdfMDB_Auto_V2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3bet Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Correction! Column title "SAP play notes" should read "MDB play notes".AYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstar Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Dear All,I am ready for my first posting. Here is the program and please read this entire posting before use. This is not yet a fully completed version. I am saving the final combined betting until after enough members have tried out this first version MDB Auto Betting Program with modification and suggestions necessary. Then my wish is to perform a poll of opinions on how should we combine our betting of all different Progs (S1,S23,S4+ and SAP or more to be added) into one straight and robust winning prog. Please try out the program and let me know how you like it and or have it modify to perfect it.Programming Notes:Programming conventions (Important, must follow to understand how program place bets):1. When a betting entry is MINUS (-) betting is on BANKER.2. When a betting entry is PLUS (+) betting is on PLAYER.3. If a bet wins highlight is RED, if a bet lose highlight is BLUE.4. When you copy and paste any data into Column B, please make sure you paste it with the “Paste Value” option.Program Prog selection Switches:1. At Columnn Y Row 2, there is a program switch set up highlighted with RED fill. You may set this value for varies program play option:(a) Switch value = 1: Only S1 and SAP will play( Switch value = 2: Only S23 and SAP will play© Switch value = 4: Only S4+ and SAP will play(d) Switch value = 7: Auto switch between S1, s23 and s4+ with SAP played(e) Switch value = 8: Only SAP will play (f) Switch value = 9: All Progs S1, S23, S4+ and SAP will playProgramming defaults:1. SAP count does not include first event.2. Betting starts as soon as play #3 for all S1, S23 and S4+.3. SAP does not start betting until after 6 plays.4. SAP posting is immediate as soon as 4s or plus is confirmed. This means 4s+ event will establish and enter into SAP table as soon as 4s emerges.5. First version of program will bet 5s+ stays on 1st appearance. Subsequent betting will rely on previous streak length. All 7s or above continue to 1 lose.Programming Definitions:1. When system switches to S23, there will be at least 2 bets played before any further switching. This is because S23 is really designed as a 2 or more bets system.2. 1s high means SAP1 > max(SAP2,SAP3,SAP4) – S4M3 is played with SW=4. 3. 1s becomes high means [(current SAP1 > last SAP1) and (SAP1 = max(SAP2,SAP3,SAP4)] –> S1 is played with SW=1. 4. 2s high means SAP2 > max(SAP1,SAP3,SAP4) –> S23 is played with SW=2. 5. 2s becomes high means [(current SAP2 > last SAP2) and (SAP2 = max(SAP1,SAP3,SAP4)] –> S23 is played with SW=2. 6. 3s high means SAP3 > max(SAP1,SAP2,SAP4) –> S23 is played with SW=2. 7. 3s becomes high means [(current SAP3 > last SAP3) and (SAP3 = max(SAP1,SAP2,SAP4)] –> S23 is played with SW=2. 8. Ellis Notes – Once S23, mode 2 or 2 plays must be made before any further system switching is allowed. Meaning SAP1 has not bumped up by 2 and at the same time SAP4 has not been increased.9. 4s high means SAP3 > max(SAP1,SAP2,SAP3) – S4+ is played with SW=4. 10. 4s becomes high means AND [OR((current SAP4 > last SAP4),cSAP>=4),(SAP4 = max(SAP1,SAP2,SAP3)] –> S4+ is played with SW=4. 11. When 1s and 2s are tied –> S1 is played with SW=1.12. When 1s and 3s are tied –> S1 is played with SW=1.13. When 2s and 3s are tied with none of them being zero –> S23 is played with SW=2.14. When 1s and 4s+ are tied -> S4+ is played with SW=4.15. When 3s and 4s+ are tied -> S4+ is played with SW=4.So please play with it and have fun!Very Best Regards,AYS[ATTACH]3028[/ATTACH]Hi AYS,I want to thank you for providing this excel simulation file. It can help me to understand MDB in an easier way. Btw, have you already came up with a version 2?Best Regards,Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3bet Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Hi AYS,I want to thank you for providing this excel simulation file. It can help me to understand MDB in an easier way. Btw, have you already came up with a version 2?Best Regards,KevinHey Kevin, really appreciated your comments. I thought that were no interest at all to pursue the simulator. I therefore did not really continue the development and went back to my regular business and spend my time and interest there.Regards,AYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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