# EZ way of determining OR count quickly, for mid shoe entry

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A couple of members asked me to post this again so here it is. I was not able to attach the illustration file, so feel free to email me and I'll send it to you.

Best way to determine OR count very quickly is as follows. (by the way do not count any ties)

Step 1:Count only the top row of circles and subtract 1. This is your "opposites" total. This is a positive number.Lets say it's 12.

Step 2:Now count all the circles below the top row. This is your "repeats" total. This is a negative number. Lets say it's -18.

Step 3: So now we net them out. We have a positive 12 for opposites and a negative 18 for repeats. So our count is -6.

To count the top row even faster, I recommend counting from right to left, count 2 columns at a time, starting with the second column, however count the lower rows from left to right. This should not take more that 15 to 20 seconds once you know how to do it.

Good Luck

CT70

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This is a great tool..... ct70 showed me this here in LA--- and it works... Thanks for your contribution

Thanks CT70

Yes, thank you!

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• 6 months later...

A excellent, easy, and quick way to determine mid-shoe entry.  Thank you.

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On ‎7‎/‎7‎/‎2015 at 9:27 PM, CT70 said:

A couple of members asked me to post this again so here it is. I was not able to attach the illustration file, so feel free to email me and I'll send it to you.

Best way to determine OR count very quickly is as follows. (by the way do not count any ties)

Step 1:Count only the top row of circles and subtract 1. This is your "opposites" total. This is a positive number.Lets say it's 12.

Step 2:Now count all the circles below the top row. This is your "repeats" total. This is a negative number. Lets say it's -18.

Step 3: So now we net them out. We have a positive 12 for opposites and a negative 18 for repeats. So our count is -6.

To count the top row even faster, I recommend counting from right to left, count 2 columns at a time, starting with the second column, however count the lower rows from left to right. This should not take more that 15 to 20 seconds once you know how to do it.

Good Luck

CT70

Good info.  This is something I commonly will do while deciding which table to sit at, although after taking a seat I try to build the scorecard on my own papers from the first hand of the shoe as quickly as possible and often before I make my 2nd bet.

In regards to the file attachment, please contact me if you need some help with this.  You should be able to add attachments.

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2 hours ago, Pompano Mike said:

Good info.  This is something I commonly will do while deciding which table to sit at, although after taking a seat I try to build the scorecard on my own papers from the first hand of the shoe as quickly as possible and often before I make my 2nd bet.

In regards to the file attachment, please contact me if you need some help with this.  You should be able to add attachments.

I do a similar thing, copying the casino's marquee into a BTC format scorecard. If there is a lot to copy ,

I record the first part of the shoe in BTC shorthand (i.e.  P1123....etc) up to the last 3 events or so, which are copied

onto the scorecard. This way, I have the most current data on my scorecard and the complete shoe for reference.

Then it is not very hard to calculate the current sap totals between hands.

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Here is the Video Explanation of the Easy Way OR Count in the download sections.

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