Keith Smith

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I was happy to see at my local Casino that they added 2 stadium Baccarat games. I played this on the mini-bac game but at least now you have a bit of table selection. Hey, basics still work this 1 and the only shoe I played tonight prove it. Hey if you don't know how to do this may I suggest joining the private forum and learn how to make the same cash. :*) Don't miss out on obvious shoes analyzing too many statistics KS

And by the way, Kevin ( Katchaz1) pulled out all the stops for the afterparty with his bacon wrapped Omaha steaks tenderloin fillets, appetizers, and everything. Kevin thank you again for all your hospitality participation and friendship.

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In Las Vegas as I mentioned I did well with the First Base Play at PH last time. The game at the Flamingo two deck wasn't as good as the PH game which I can't remember if it was 6 or 8. I believe we should revisit everything counting and basic strategy, first base play, third base play and teams as clump players, Zero Proximity and also Count. The issue that we always run into when we try to analyze Blackjack is inevitably we get a card counter who endlessly argue that he is correct and get side tracked. As I just tried to answer someone on my YouTube video about how card clumps beat Basic Strategy, they continue to miss the point that if the cards are random, I agree with the math. In his post, his contention is he wins more in high counts. No matter what I say ( of course the advantage does revert to the dealer in extremely high count per deck), he does not want to or does not understand. If the cards are sorted, it favors dealer strategy, and if they get the cards to always be in that condition ( occur more than randomly chance allows), that is how they beat you. Here is the video and again they post with such certitude that no on can teach them anything. It is slightly condescending as the commentator addresses me as "friend" which implies my stupid poor soul, in my mind, you are not well informed.

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Since you are a dedicated player KINO, you would benefit greatly from joining our Professional Player's Club. Seems like a modest expense for someone who has so much experience it wold be the best bet you could make. We would love to have you in the forum with your insights.

Have you considered joining the private forum since you are doing so well?

You should implement the Baccarat strategies we have for Casino War they will apply.

Dealer break rate average(random games) is 1 in 3.5 hands. Of those 264 he broke 72 times for an average mean break rate of 1 in 3.6 hands. Not a bad game.

This also has a lot to do with the movies around Blackjack Card Counting and all the promotion of it from Ken Uston adventures to MIT. Even if they lose they do oddly seem proud of themselves that they made the right play. I once tried to have a conversation with a dealer about the three types of hands, those you win if you do nothing, those that win if a different decision is made and those that lose no matter what you do. My point was that if you hit instead of standing contrary to Basic Strategy, you sometimes can affect the outcome of the game and win more hands in certain games. Of course, I was alluding to a non-random game. He insisted that there is only one correct play for every hand and oddly said it has nothing to do if you win or lose. This indoctrinated mentality is what has built casinos. Over the years I have people who have insisted they are winning with counting and honestly I think it is human nature and I believe that they claim success for their ego gratification and to be a part of the winners club.

When you try to determine if a game is random you must consider how we group cards. If we arrange the cards as Ace, 2,3,4,5,6 as low, 9,10,10,10,10 Ace as high and 7s and 8s are neutral, then realize that 6 out of 13 cards that can make a sequence of lows. A low sequence of like cards can occur quite frequently by random chance. I think a better predictor of randomness is to look at the entire table if it is a dealt up game and simply count the number of high cards in the round relevant to the number of low cards. If you consistently see rounds that are rich in low cards or rich in high cards, you may have a shoe or casino that has cards that are non-random.

Yes, Blackjack is my all time favorite game. Wow, some excellent points you make. One issue that the card clumping players seem to have is that they did assume that there was exploitable card clumping in every game that was more than one deck, and of course this was a major mistake. To your point on First Base, I think your observations are correct, it is either there or not there. Card clumpers did not like to admit for some strange reason that table selection was critical. I think this was due to it being associated with Jerry Patterson's Target Strategy. While the initial target game factors were valid, it got a bit silly when they noted other things that had no relationship. I have found that I believe that the clumping that is beneficial to first base play occurs in about 20% of the games which means that most of the tables are not playable. Anecdotally it does seem to play best with a 2 or 3 more players, and those players must play straight basic strategy. I think the one rule that is most significant is if you both break on the same hand the dealers wins. You alluded to it and, also all the rules favor the player except that one; if you can overcome that one disadvantage with card play, betting, doubling, splitting, blackjacks, insurance, surrendering, and a higher hand total you will win.

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Well, what were your observations on BJ if it is clumped did you see too many high cards or low cards in a row and many tables or was the game random? I suspect random with the CSM's KS

Yes, Continuous Shuffle Machines are a pain. I think that they are random. Over all the years I have played, I doubt that the casino's program shuffle machines to affect the game. You can simply watch the game and see if the game is random or clumped. If you observed it is clumped, then you must see this in the majority of the games. If you do not, then you see what appears to be biased but only patterns from random chance not duplicated at other tables. The only exception if you see it time and time again at the same table. Yes, I agree six decks games have been in my estimation the hardest to play. Yes since they are random and continuous, I would try to use the use the Zero Proximity strategy. I would take anything Carlos says with a grain of salt as he has lost credibility with me. KS

Well sure clumping is a great subject, although again I think we look for patterns in cards too often and what we identify as clumping is just random. In Blackjack, it is evident when the cards are nonrandom, and there is no ambiguity. Yes, I agree, and the first base ploy in Vegas works well. I played it a few times and planned on playing it in March when I get there. Hopefully, we can play some Blackjack together. My Top Rules: Play first Base and anticipate a ten card, if you get it, but don't get 19 or 20's leave the table. Playing a random game thinking First Base Strategy will win is a mistake. I must agree with only double if you are playing a basic strategy card counting game. If you are playing short term for wins, always take insurance with a Blackjack against an ace. Look if you are playing professional counting and doing it full time ok don't, take insurance and base your decision on the count. If you see a clumped game and you can read the hole-card, insure other players hands if you can/let you. I was able to do it one time but did it in a seven-player game in AC one time. I insured the whole table and won. Frequently the player next to you will let you if you ask and they did not exercise the option. If you are counting, make sure you cannot predict the cards, i.e., look for a random game with fewer decks. Playing clump style look for a reasonable clumping frequency, if they are over-clumped you will be able to predict when you lose!!! In clumped games, hit ace pairs and don't split 8's hit them or stand.

Why the count doesn't work in low card clumps.

I am going to revisit Blackjack again and want to get us started with the same enthusiasm that we approached Baccarat.

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ARe you for real? I sent you a request not to use over the top profanity in a post. I mentioned to you that my son reads the forum. I am sure while none say are offended by your choice of words also. I did not censor your post I tried to draw a line of your use of unnecessary profanity. I send you a private message ask you nicely and now you attack me in this manner What is it you want me to do. I am asking you to be respectful on the forum and this seems like a reasonable request not use profanity that may offend people. If you cannot post with thoughtful choice of words then please don't.